jeff,

Your telling people to listen to brig hart, do you realize that he has been involved in lawsuits, misrepresenting mona vie, like thats someone I really want to listen to. People get educated, research mona vie go to wikipedia, the company I own has never been involved in a lawsuit, going on twelve years, mona vie has been around for four years and has had several, look it up. Dallin has ran two other companys into the ground, royal tongan limu was shut down by the government and the distributors of that product were left out in the cold, holding on to cases of the product that could legally not be sold.

Anonymous,

When you trade in your pink dress for pants and become man enough to post YOUR real name, I may just give you my ID#. Until then, bite me.

mark

James (food tech)
How transparent can you be? You're a real trip. Can't get enough morons to agree with your psuedo science bullsh*t so you have to become one yourself?....
Damn, what happened? Lost your job?..lol...I hear Campbells has opening for a forklift driver supervisor...Just think, you could be Blowlock's boss !!

mark

Rocket. Orin Woodward is nothing more than a successful network marketer. He's been in networking his whole life and has many friends who follow him. All he did was bring them with him into monavie and succeeded rather quickly. He's no better than anyone else who is a success in monavie.
Perhaps you're upset with it's because he has friends, and you don't. Is that your beef? lol

mark

Senor Food tech said, "Research for yourself. You don't have to be a scientist."

I say, to Food tech,
"Research for yourself. You don't have to PRETEND to be a scientist."

mark

OMG Lisa. If I was as dumb as most of the nincompoops on here, I'd believe your story too.
It's freakin' laughable you know? NOBODY in Monavie tells ANYONE to quit their regular jobs. Who do you think you're talking to? IDIOTS? Only the loser morons on this board would sympathize with your pathetic lies. Almost EVERYONE in Monavie either works a regular job while working Monavie. Only those who have stuck with Monavie as a side line and WORKED their asses off with it, have been able to quit their regular jobs.
So get off the pot. It's FULL !!

mark

You guys can go back & forth all day long. Bottom line, Mona Vie or any other MLM has NO RIGHT to dictate what their distributors can and cannot do! This matter will be played out in a court of law because there is already a massive lawsuit against Mona Vie and here is why- they welcome distributors from other MLM's like Amway and Usana (Orrin Woodward, Randy Schroeder, etc) with 'open arms' and they encourage AND PAY THEM to bring over their large downlines. THEN they turn around and try to stop their distributors, who have seen their income go down due to the economy, from creating other sources of income for their families. And these other MLM companies do not even compete with Mona Vie from a product standpoint! Dallin Larsen stands on stage and talks about GOD first, family second and Mona Vie third. HE IS SO FULL OF IT! Come on, family second? Why would you hurt your loyal distributors by terminating them from Mona Vie all because they just want to make some extra income to provide for their families? Mona Vie does not own the rights to their distributors. This is a relationship business and if I have a relationship with someone why cant I share another MLM opportunity with them? Orrin did it! Randy did it! The NONI guy in Atlanta did it! How else did he go Hawaiian Blue Diamond in 6 weeks?? Mona Vie does that on purpose because they need to show you that 'it can be done'! Look at this guy, he did it and YOU CAN TOO!!!!! They forget to mention that he had a downline from NONI of over 90,000 people. Do you think that helped him get where he wanted to go faster than you can get there?? YUP!
Mona Vie is all about MONEY!!!!!! Why do you think they charge $40 for a bottle of juice when it costs them $3.75 per bottle to make it?
Listen, I wish all distributors good luck whether they are in Mona Vie or another MLM. You have the right to provide for your family. What bothers me is that 99% of you WILL NOT MAKE MONEY IN MONA VIE!!
WHY, SIMPLE, THE MONEY IS GOING TO THE TOP PEOPLE IN THE COMPANY- BRIG, STEVE, GINA, CHARLIE, MATT, ETC. THE DROP OUT RATE FOR MONA VIE IS 78%. IF YOU DONT BELEIVE ME DO THE RESEARCH. 78 OUT OF 100 PEOPLE WHO JOIN MONA VIE AND GET ON AUTO SHIP END UP CANCELLING WITHIN THE FIRST 3-6 MONTHS!
WHY, THE JUICE IS SO EXPENSIVE AND THEY CANT MAKE ANY MONEY.
BRIG, STEVE AND CO. COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ANY OF YOU. TRUST ME, I KNOW GINA M. AND SHE IS A GOLD DIGGING TYRRANT WHO WILL STEP ON HER OWN MOTHER TO GET ACROSS THE ROAD!!!!
THAT IS A FACT!
MONA VIE HAS 1 MAYBE 2 YEARS LEFT AND IT WILL GO DOWN LIKE THE TITANIC TO THE BOTTOM OF THE MLM OCEAN! THE USUAL SUSPECTS LIKE DALLIN, HENRY, BRIG, STEVE, GINA THEY WILL RESURFACE WITH ANOTHER MLM AND START ALL OVER AGAIN. THAT IS THE CYCLE FOR THESE BOTTOMFEEDERS WHO CANT MAKE IT IN THE REAL CORPORATE WORLD.
The truth about Mona Vie will eventually get exposed because the truth always prevails. Right now they continue to operate with lies and deception but that will be short lived as they are quickly losing people right and left. Why do you think they are changing their policies and procedures regarding how you can advertise? What about adding a new preferred customer program? If sales ares o goo then they wouldn't have to do that!
They sent me a bottle of the new energy drink EMV and it does taste pretty good but please know this- it is a temporary band aid on a much bigger wound. Think for yourselves instead of lining up to drink the KOOL-AID!
Happy 4th of July everyone!

Hey Jeff aka SMELLY

Quit lying, your not involved with Monavie. Your a distributor of "HATE". We all know it. We know who and what you are? Who you trying to fool? I know who you are, Food Tech knows who you are, and so do a lot of other people. You just don't have a clue how we know. Who are you sucking up too?

My upline and downline feel the same as I do about you morons playing around on this site pushing your agenda. Who's your upline? How about your downline? they must be your weak leg. As for playing around you're pushing your agenda. "HATE"

I would think you would spend more time viewing Brig Hart and monavie related sites. Do you really watch Brig Hart? I don't think so. He talks nothing like you do or any of the diamonds. Your a con artist, has been, a cheat . You have use these words on most of your posts.

I don't push my business here like you idiots.. What is your real business? HATE? Monavie? Don't make me laugh.

Food Tech was found out on another blog by someone. It was not Hap. Food Tech said he would only answer scientific questions on this post. What he does on the others is his business. If he wants to answer you is up to him. What Food Tech did for Hap, he was very grateful. If your not happy with the results then you are the JERK

Hey B of VA

Do you know who Orrin Woodward is?

Were you in Amway before Monavie?

Have you seen all the Monavie for sale on Ebay?

The market is speaking, the hucksters just aren't listening.

Orrin Woodward will stay with Monavie as long as they let him continue to extract money from his group.

Then he'll leave, and find another useless product to pretend he's selling that.

All so he can keep "building communities" with his amateur motivational products.

www.rocketsrants.blogspot.com

That's very true Lance. It's either some ridiculous cure claim or it's always somebody they know which is at such and such level. The reason is very simple though. Less than 1% of folks involved in this crap every make any real money.

Notice how all these Monavie nut huggers never let on to any success they have had in this so called business?

Hey Hap..I am a monavie distributor and proud of it! My upline and downline feel the same as I do about you morons playing around on this site pushing your agenda. If your were really serious about monavie and business building I would think you would spend more time viewing Brig Hart and monavie related sites. I don't push my business here like you idiots..all you do is play into thier hands. I understand though..you and food tech got something going on. It's quite obvious you admire him and want to be just like him. Your a two faced jerk and a great suck up!! MONAVIE FOREVER!!

Lisa, my pathetic what? I guess you answered all the questions. Is Smelly crossdressing now?

Good to hear from you Hap even if it is by slow pony. I guess you don't want your job knowing you log onto horror sites. I can understand.

Rocket, no one named Orrin is involved in any Monavie I drink. So I don't know why the rinky dink excuse?

Is there any chance this B of VA moron might drown himself while gargling down this overpriced crap?

FOOD TECH .....Thank you for helping my neighbor's boy,James. He loves science quite a lot. He a very inquisitive boy. Thank you for helping him.

I'm doing a high security job out of the country so I am having this e-mailed to a friend who is posting this for me. I left just about a week ago so I miss the PH, but my friend sent me James questions and your helpful replies. Thanks FT. Sure do miss the California sunshine.

B of VA thank you for the good karma,her name is Wendy ,our paths crossed so many times in California, the good Lord finally put me next to her. She is my homesick medicine already. Isn't it funny the people who say they know what's is going on with the FTC and the FDA haven't a cue.

JEFF PERIOD.....NO way are you a distributor,with derogatory remarks such as yours? Just because you say so,don't mean so. If your mouth speaks your mind then derogatory remarks must be for a competitive company. I wouldn't brag that you're a distributor. Your upline should drop you in a heartbeat and your downline people should fine someone fast.

JJT.... Here's a good example we take his [JP] word that he's a distributor. Not me or should anyone else for that matter [that's my opinion] let him prove it. His upline and the company will handle it, not us.

B of VA you are such a stupid idiot. You have an answser for every comment written here. Is this all you do with your boring life is read and write on purple horror? If your such a great monavie distributor, then why do you spend so much time here! Put your energy into something positive. Your pathetic...

I might actually like Monavie if Orrin Woodward wasn't involved.

True, it's overpriced juice that has dubious benefits, but it's kinda a neat thing if you're looking for a rinky dink business and already tried Amway.

Not an Orrin Woodward fan

www.rocketsrants.blogspot.com

Lisa, are you for real? Monavie couldn't have "ruined" your family. No one would ever say you can't have a W2 and do Monavie. You can W2 all you want. It is other MLMs that are off limits, not multiple 1099's.

Don't you possibly have it backwards. Could it actually be you who is trying to ruin Monavie. Silly girl.

If you are for real and have an upline who told you that, spill it out here. Who are these people? Be brave. Put their @%&* on the street. And at the same time let us know who your husband is. Why anyone would quit a job in this economy is double dumb.

treeberries.com

I have been asked what juice or supplement do I recommend, since I'm not a MonaVie fan.

My answer: Juices and similar supplements used to replace a healthy diet are not recommended. These products were designed for people who are too lazy to chew.

As I've pointed out numerous times, fruits and vegetables are the weapons of choice to combat free radicals.

Even if someone develops a juice that has a higher ORAC than a single Fuji apple (which, they haven't), my answer would be, simply, eat two Fuji apples. You'll still get the fiber and other phytonutrients missing in a juice.

Plus, you'll save a bundle of money.

If you want to add MonaVie or other trendy, designer juice as an addition to your diet, I would not argue against it.

Do not fool yourself to believing that it can replace a day's serving of fruits and vegetable in your diet. It cannot.

It's not necessary to take my word for it. Google the USDA ORAC Table of Selected Foods.

Review the total ORAC number. Divide by 100 to compare to the data on MonaVie from AIBMR, which is expressed per milliliter.

AIBMR (Dr. Schauss) lists the MonaVie ORAC at 22.81 umoles/ml.

Research for yourself. You don't have to be a scientist.

Dear Mr. Food Tech

Thank you for helping me with my experiment. I have learned quite a lot from you already. Will be asking more later on. I told my mom and dad that you should have a TV show so kids like myself could see how science works.

Again Thank you
James

Mona Vie has ruined my family. My husband quit his job to start doing "the business" after being told over and over again it was bad to have a W-2 job when you could make so much more with Mona Vie. The juice has helped him in his own mind but going from making $10,000 a month to $600.00 selling the juice, we are going to lose our home. We have no more friends left now that my husband gets so angry when others don't fall all over signing up to drink. Mona Vie works for some but in our case we lost everything.

peppilepew, I think the people who like the spike from sugar, chemicals and all that caffeine in energy drinks are not going to like Monavie EMV. Well they may like it but they may not buy it. They want BANG and it isn't there. It is more of a steady energy and focus because it is based on nutrition which unlocks energy.

Since this is the first energy drink I have ever tried I can't compare it. But I do enjoy the taste, a light fizzy drink. And everyone I let taste it has liked the taste too.

For 50 cents less people can buy Red Bull and drive their hearts into the ground.

NOW IT'S MR. FOOD TECH..COME ON!! THIS GUY IS A SCAM ARTIST WITH A DINKY GARAGE LAB PLAYING SCIENTIST. I KNOW HIM AND HE IS A JOKE. YOU CAN NEVER TAKE THIS PERSON SERIOUS...HE PROVIDES BOGUS INFO. CLAIMING ALL ALONG HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. DO NOT CONSULT THIS PERSON ANY LONGER..HE WILL DISAPPOINT YOU IN MANY WAYS..ASK OTHERS AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THE SAME. BEWARE...HE JUST WANTS YOUR MONEY!!! DON'T LET HIS FREE TALK FOOL YOU....HE HATES MONAVIE AND WILL SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM TRYING IT.

I don’t know what all of the bad talk about monavie is, I have been drinking for over 2 years and so have my parents. I do not sell it, I signed up just so I can buy it at a lower price. The product is great, personally I do not have to take my sinus meds daily any more, I took them for 18 years and if I did not take them at night and have my flonase I would be sick as a dog the next morning, now I do not take any meds. My hot flashes stopped, just stopped one day about 1 month into the juice. My dad who is a diabetic under doctor’s care and has been taking injections for 10+ years is now taking about 1/2 of the injection as was needed before.

I take my vitamins, my diet consist of being a vegetarian for the last 20 years and I never felt better or have better stamina these last 2 years than ever.

I think you should stop bad mouthing a product until you have been on it for six months or so. And if it does not work for you than stop.

I think you need to get a job!

As a distributor of MonaVie I can clearly say that the benefits of the juice mix do provide benefits. My sinus problem cleared overnight and I sleep better. I expect puns at my screen mane so have at it. The downside is the overwhelming cost and small size of the bottle. We are expected as distributors to freely hand out hundreds of bottles in the hope of building a down line. Selling this product at the current cost and the economic situation has been beyond difficult. It is a long uphill climb. The upline makes mega bucks off new distributors attempting to become successful. It takes a certain personality and setting to be successful. Tread lightly when venturing into this tree/pyramid. I would recomend you sell your bottles at cost to potential downliners. Many don't seem to like the taste of EMV. I like it and feel it does provide a slow even energy curve. Don't expect an energy level that will propel you to the moon. It just isn't going to happen. People are difficult to deal with and have their own agendas.

As a new distributor, I came to this site to find out what I was up against. I must say, I am relieved. The mud-slinging serves to invalidate the anti-MonaVie claims being made. Sounds like sour concord grapes to me.

I will continue to sell a product that I can believe in, bless my family and work with happy, positive MonaVie people, while not alienating any of my friends who would rather not partake.

You can sell anything in this world, and most times you only benefit the guy at the top. With MonaVie, what you put in is what you get out, and I am thankful every day that we have not had to claim bankruptcy as a result of this opportunity and a friend who cared. My bottom line is my family - and we are happy. That's all I can ask for.

For James:

First, if you are trying to make a juice blend similar to MonaVie, you must use concentrated ingredients.

They normally would be in the form of purees or powders (like the acai freeze-dried concentrate) or similar ingredients.

They buy ingredients in this way, so they don't have to pay to ship the water, naturally found in them. When processed, the water is again added to the batch, at the same concentration as before.

The fruits that you added already had their water, so adding water wasn't necessary in this case.

As for adding grape juice as a water substitute, you are partially right.

When you have a batch of fruit juice that's been blended and almost ready for bottling, a lab tech would take a sample to be sure that it tastes right, and that the product is within the specifications set by the company.

Usually, for fruit juices, they test for brix to acid ratio. Brix is the sugar (sweetness) and the acid gives it the tart taste.

If these two are not in the exact proportions to each other, the product would taste funny.

MonaVie claims "no added sugar". Of course, we know there is plenty of sugar in the product in the form of fruit sugars.

So, if the batch is on the tart (acid) side, they can add a "natural" sweetner. White grape juice. W. grape juice also contains water. But, at some part of the process, they must add water on top of what is found in the fruits and white grape juice. That is what all multiple ingredient fruit juices do, since fruits vary in their moisture content crop to crop.

As for the ORAC, grape juice would probably increase it, but at the expense of an antioxidant: anthocyanins.

Anthocyanin is a type of plant antioxidant that give fruits their color (pigment). Acai has tested high in anthocyanins.

If a lot of white grape juice (which is very inexpensive) is used in the product, we'd see two things happen.

One, the anthocyanin level would decrease, because white grapes don't contain anthocyanins.

Two, the total phenolics (all plant based antioxidants) would increase, because white grape is a good source of these.

When I had MonaVie tested, I found both to be true.

As compared to the original AIBMR study, I found that the anthocyanins had decreased down to 0.095 mg/ml. This is a low level, and would indicate that the acai had been seriously diluted with other ingredients.

The total phenoilics, however, had almost doubled, from 1.48 mg (AIBMR) to 2.91 mg.

This would be a classic ingredient substitution issue. Inexpensive white grape juice replacing the more expensive fruits (including acai) that contain anthocyanins.

Sorry for the long-winded answer.

b. of f.u.: Here is the link to the Men's Journal article that you mentioned:

www.mensjournal.com/superjuices-on-trial

You would be surprised at the number of people that dispute facts.

Jim Sabert the comparisons are about the growth of the businesses in the early days. Only a fool would compare a fruit juice to the software that just may run the world. But I'm glad that you personally feel better.

I hear that Hap has left the country for an extended TDY. I hope he can get to a computer once in a while. I hear he has also met a nice woman. Sounds like Hap has good karma.

FT partner, B of F.U., you don't have to have auto-ship to receive monavie. How about actually talking fact. Auto-ship is in place to keep life simple and can be cancelled, reinstated or altered in less than a minute. Smelly you do worry me. Reach out to friends.

Food Tech,
I saw some similar reports, one was done by mens journal,they reported on m v specifically and remarked on the exorbitant costs and said there are several fruits that are readily available that you dont have to on auto-ship to recieve. Pomegranites and blueberries are just two, reasonably priced, both are chalked full of antioxidants. I did hear of the shelf bought grape juice research comparison and that it scored higher then mona vie, thanks for your input, how can you dispute fact.

Thank god somebody finally called out these idiots who constantly want to compare Microsoft and Monavie.

Mr. Food Tech, my name is James, and my neighbor is Hap. He is gone away for a while but he told my dad that I should ask you any questions about food scientifics.

My parents helped me do this experment. Using 9 different fruits, banana, pear, passion fruit, kiwi, blueberries, cherries, prune, white grape, purple grape The only difference was I used concentrated both white and purple grape juice. It's hard finding fruits that are concentrated. I let the grape juice get to room temperature before I did the experiment.

Each one weighing appox. 4 oz each. I put all the fruits into a juicer and added equal amounts of the grape juice. It had the same consistency of Monavie I noticed , I added no water. You say there is water added. Since it is concentrated could they have used the grape juices? You say they have to add water. What did I do wrong not adding water?

Now if they used too much grape juice would this lower their products ORAC score?

Thank you

James

So Pam,
If I invested $1000.00, (several hundred shares of stock or more), into Microsoft when they started and I invested $1000.00 into monavie,(25-30 bottles of friggin juice), when they started, where would I be financially wise.
OK, since monavie doesn't cure brainfarts,(yet), I'll spell it out. The Microsoft investment would have made the investor a millionaire several times over and the monavie sucker,er, investor would have possibly quenched their thirst for about 6 months & drained their bank account by the same amount.
I love to compare these two companies, don't you!
PS, the Microsoft investor will probably STILL have relationships with his old friends and family members: another plus that is worth more than the money itself.

mark,
You sound like a first class, A#1 guy. Please forward your distributor # so I can sign up to be in your downline. I can't wait to become one of your followers. PLEASE be my mentor, as I feel you have what it takes to be a great leader. I want to learn the ropes of monavie from one of their prime examples of a caring, highly intelligent, non-judgemental, juiceboy. Really. I'm not joking. Seriously. I'll be waiting.

I just popped a can of E, cant believe the feeling of ecstasy that moves through my body, from my head to my toes, lol. I feel like I can accomplish anything. mmmmmmmmmmmmmm that tastes good, dont you wish you had some. I am now fully cured of cancer of the brain, my hair patches that grew in some not so mentionable areas are gone, praise the lord,(dallin) mv is my savior, squirt it, feel it, share it. I love all of you amazing monta vie people congratulations for making Dallin and and the whole crew rich beyond belief. As for those of you still not convinced, sit on it!!!! drink the berries.

WHAT ABOUT JUICES?

MonaVie Active vs. Store-shelf Concord Grape Juice.

ORAC SCORE: MonaVie: 22.81 umoles/ml
Grape Juice: 25.9 umoles/ml

TOTAL PHENOLICS (AKA polyphenols. All plant-based antioxidants combined)

MonaVie: 1.48 mg/ml
Grape Juice: 2.6 mg/ml

PER SERVING: 4 oz. of MonaVie: ORAC: 2,698 umoles per 4 oz. PHENOLICS: 175 mg per 4 oz.

4 oz. of Concord grape juice: ORAC: 3,063 umoles per 4 oz. PHENOLICS: 308 mg per 4 oz.

WINNER: CONCORD GRAPE JUICE

MonaVie Data from AIBMR study (MonaVie-sponsored)
Concord Grape Juice Data from UCLA Juice Study (The Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, 2008, Vol. 56., Pgs. 1415-1420)

THE WEEKLY FARM REPORT

MonaVie Active vs. Seedless Raisins

ORAC SCORE: MonaVie: 22.81 umoles/ml
Raisins: 30.37 umoles/gm

TOTAL PHENOLICS (AKA polyphenols. All plant-based antioxidants combined)
MonaVie: 1.48 mg/ml
Raisins: 10.65 mg/gm

4 oz. of MonaVie gives you: 175 mg of phenolics (antioxidants)

1 box (1 oz.) of Raisins gives you: 298 mg of phenolics (antioxidants)

MonaVie Data courtesy of AIBMR Life Sciences (MonaVie sponsored) Director: Dr. Schauss

Raisin Data from USDA ORAC Table of Selected Foods - 2007

Why do the monavites refer to consuming this drink as "taking it"?
I TAKE aspirin, sometimes ibuprofen, etc.
I DRINK milk, oj, water. I don't TAKE milk, oj, water.

I hope the people in smelly's life are aware that he is losing it. All his multiples are showing up at once. Smelly, ask some friends to help get you back on the ground. Your Jeff incarnation is a real stretch even for you.

Stan my smelly Man, underneath boredom is always suppression. Go ahead, give Monavie a try, you don't have to suppress your urges anymore.

Love Monavie!!! Will never stop taking it because it has changed my life and my sons life. The only people making money in Monavie are people who are not lazy. They are the ones who really go after their dreams and don't talk about doing it they do it. (I have been taking monavie for about 2 years and love it and now I'm ready to build the business because I have plenty of proof it's the best business in the world!!! Doing way better than Microsoft when it started!!! GO MONAVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

B of VA is the ultimate loser on this site posting boring comments time after time. We could care less about your little monavie updates...like we really look forward to reading them. BORING!!!!!!!! Work on your LITTLE welches juice business and quit spending so much time here jerk...

Mark,
Thanks for showing everyone how the average Mona Vie Distributor talks to people in the everyday world. If you are thinking about joining the "Mona Vie" team, come to expect this kind of "degrading banter" and get used to it. Its commonplace in cult like organizations such as this. Good job Mark.

Mark if you buy in smaller quantities you can get the product, but the bulk orders are on backorder. They want to make sure everyone can get some, just not large amounts of it (yet). 24 million cans went fast.

You all remember a couple months ago when Shelley had the aneurism in Delaware and Concerned Friend actually knew her doctor. They were in Utah last week and are back on the road as strong as ever, spending time in Virginia too. Her doctors can not explain her complete healing without any paralysis. 50% of people with this type of aneuryism have paralysis. She and Ed share their story and they believe it is a miracle. Could Monavie have helped. Even during her brain healing she had flashes of lucidity, asking for her cell phone, apeaking up about Monavie when Ed asked her doctor if he could give it to her. This is a beautiful story. They have small children and she is as vital as ever again. I thought many would be happy to know this.

Drink your berries!

Sorry,for the late reply I will tell you later.

What a surprise to see you back . I thought for sure you didn't like me any more. What I did was to show how a person can fool people on the post. If you do not know the party personally how do you know who or what they say is the truth? You don't. I wasn't with anybody, wasn't sitting at a table or with anyone from those states. The whole paragraph is fictitious. I see you bought it.

Now you mention about financial gains that maybe possible and also probable. Here's an ad from the newspaper: job opening for a person with motivation,earn up to 250K no experience necessary,must be able to pass RE exam. Now is that possible and also probable? you don't know until you try. You may make 300K or 400K or maybe just $100. But you don't know until you try.

Do I believe those are all people posing as distributors to give the company a bad name. Heavens NO!!! your not,but you could write a claim, how would we know?

Hey Food Tech...I am not BJ My name is Jeff. Your right you know nothing about monavie..AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SCIENCE!!! You are a fake 100%. I could care less if you respond to this..but I sure bet your reading this. THE TRUTH HURTS FOOD BOY.....Monavie rules...

FT I don't know why you would think Jeff is BJ? Jeff is no Monavier. My guess, it is Smelly.

And I'm waiting for Sally (smelly) to put the link to that cancer blog. She could use a course in How to Win Friends and Influence people too and the advanced sessions on how to keep friends (by not ridiculing their vulnerabilities maybe?) She touched a nerve with me. May she never have to watch her mother suffer like her friend did.

Well Dalin, 1 Billion in 3 Years 4 Mths. The MORE Project only get 2 Million. Dalin and Karree we are starting to see though you NOW. You have gone back on your WORD so many times now, you BLOW MY MIND NOT YOUR DRINK. To get to the truth in Australia,there are to many lies you say that you a GOD loving man this is your front, MORE to the Kids, dont you mean less. Dalin and karree know what is in people hearts, and this is what they tape into. People i could go on for a long time about Monavie, open your eyes up to what is going on here. Only the smart listen. Monavie has used me big time, so we just use each other for the money. you will say you cant not say this, no are you a Emerald, NO GET TO THIS LEVEL YOUR EYES WILL SEE WHAT DALIN AND KARREE ARE DOING.

Hey Food Tech. You have a serious mental problem. I know who BJ is and trust me, he wouldn't waste his time pretending to be someone else. I'm sure if he had something to say, he would use his name. Here in Texas last week I attended a meeting in which he made a short presentation, and I happen to know that he's not a two faced chicken shit like the rest of you creepy losers. You can take that to the bank.

mark

For Jeff Period (aka BJ):

Hap asks some good questions about science. As I mentioned previously, I am staying only with science-related topics on this board.

I admit that I don't know a lot about the business side of MonaVie, or MLMs in general.

I do know about the science of food and beverages, so I will stay on my side of the fence.

I'm sure Hap, B of VA and many others disagree with much of what I post. That's fine. They are more than welcome to post rebuttals. I will not ridicule any serious, science-related discussions.

Feel free to insult me using any of your various monikers. You will get no response from me.

Breezy, you must be right about monavie E-mv.
My order is on backorder and I haven't even had a chance to taste it yet. lol
I can't wait !!

mark

Sally, good try, but your scare tactics mean nothing gal. Your just another jealous loser posting on this site. Try some Monavie and it might just heal your attitude.

Sally thanks for loading your post with claims. I guess you sure are a former friend. You begrudge her mother's ease!!!! If you are speaking the truth and not playing at being smelly with good grammar then turn your former friend in and stop loading this site with cancer claims. Put the link to a "cancer blog" for gods' sakes.

Get enough hydration and BP can come down. Don't be surprised if it fluctuates for people, that is why it is checked often. Get good food calcium (Kale, raw milk or kefir, etc.) and BP can come down due to relaxation. Lots of reasons, less stress, more meditation, less chemical intake, etc.

I know a guy whose BP skyrocketed, his nose started profusely bleeding and he was taken to the hospital. First thing I said was did he have enough water. When we checked he hadn't had any water for several days, just other dehydrating liquids. Viola..... No he has never tried Monavie. It's hard enough leading some people to water.

I can hardly believe that someone as cruel as you WAS EVER her friend. Highly suspicious. I hope she discovers just how MUCH you distain her. And for what, some friend........

Jerry I'm surprised you are on a cold call list. First off many MLMs in the past would purchase lists but I have never seen that with Monavie. And now with the internet being used to attract people (dream team method) people rarely call with other MLMs. How it works is you find a link while doing a search, you get interested in what you see and you ask for a publication or email newsletter or some little thing and then you get called. You have been prequalified. I know people using this for Monavie and many others. Get current Jerry, you are complaining about what happened before and it rarely ever worked either. Monavie is far too with it to use last century's methods.

Jeff Period good luck to you because you need it. You must be a master at the fly paper method.

Actually Mike Ahn you have it backwards, MLM wouldn't last if it wasn't offering good products. You don't want to repurchase crap from the store and it's the same with having something delivered to your home. They last because they have good products. People put their reputations behind good products.

Just drinking it, feeling it and sharing it.

CORRECTION, Monavie sold 1 million cases of EMV in the first two days. That is 24 million cans. If we keep that up we'll become UPS's first customer instead of their second.

listen to all of you arguing about the fruit,if thats all you see in this bottle then,you will never ever succeed in this business,I see an opportunity to change my life and everybody elses life that i can reach in this bottle,listen to the cds and read the books,learn,there will always be people around trying to drag you down to their level of thinking don't let it happen,but don't fight back no need to waste your time with those people,move on. drink it feel it share it and have fun

www.mlmwatchdog.com/MLM_Web_Freedom_FTC.html

Someone sent me the link to mlmwatchdog. It's pretty interesting with up to date info about different companies, even Monavie. Apparently Amway sued Monavie for making claims way back when. I never knew that.

MLM is becoming so big that the government is getting interested, particularly when the no-compete clause is enforced. They say that means distributors are not independent and they may start withholding tax. I'm paraphrasing.

The FTC is getting interested too in claims and may require rules for websites where testimonials or financial claims are made. MLM is here to stay!

Ok , yer right, nobody comes knockin on yer door to sell this crap. But, they DO COLD CALL continuously and won't stop until you either stop answering the phone or go to a CULT meeting. What's the diff between cold calling and door to door selling? At least a door to door salesman has the BALLS to face you right off the bat! And Yes this is my real name, My FULL name, and again I have the balls to let the world know exactly who I am and not HIDE behind some sublime moniker or screen name used as a shield to hide my true identity. Like I said before, if this is such a good product, put it on the shelves and let the people decide for themselves.

Hey Hap..Why are you sucking up to so called food tech. You are such a wuss. Are the both of you now bosom buddies? You tear down food one day and kiss up the next. Make up your mind sissy boy!! or whatever you are....Oh, before you think I'm someone else like others seem to think...I am the real thing and a REAL MONAVIE distributor DOING VERY WELL BY THE WAY!! My name is Jeff PERIOD!

Jeff

www.bdutv.net/2009/06/dr-schauss-anaheim-extravaganza/

Not only has Monavie launched websites such as Monavietv and Monaviephotos.com but Black Diamond University has also launched a TV website. The above link is Dr. Schauss being interviewed at the Anaheim extravaganza.

Monavie has also offered links to add to websites such as Facebook and Twitter. They are expanding the web reach.

I've learned that a million cans of EMV were sold in the first two days of launch. I've tried to get a couple bulk orders and they are both on back order now.

www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit.asp?id=48275

Monavie is suing ExFuze probably because of this:

www.rebecca.iexfuze.net/

It is a Trademark suit and I think their bottle looks too much like ours. That is probably what it is over. I was wondering if they were ever going to do this.

There is a compilation of quotes and even streaming audio from a lot of doctors at:

www.realhealthanswers.com/features/what-health-professionals-say-about-acai.htm

A generic compilation that seems to keep growing:

www.realhealthanswers.com/features/acai-berry-testimonies.htm

What's funny about these MLM clowns is they think they're on to something new. These systems have been around for a while and it has nothing to do with the product. It can be crap in a bag and the idea will still be about getting other people sign up and then sign up folks under them.

I have a friend, a former friend, who worked in sales but left to have children. When her husband lost his job in sales they started selling this monavie at the end of last year. She e-mailed me letting me know that this monavie made her husband sleep better, that a friend's mother has stopped taking her high blood pressure medication because her blood pressure went down, and her mother who has cancer was not sick after her chemo treatments. She then stated that I could buy this juice or sell it or both.
Needless to say, having been in medical sales and now working with my husband in his law office, I decided to do some research. Besides the company being run by scam artists who have a trail of scam companies in their tracks, you only have to look at the ingredient label to realize someone is not telling the whole picture. My friend continued to hard sell me and I finally lambasted her by suggesting that I expected more intelligence from someone with a college degree. She has not contacted me since after a friendship of over ten years.
As I was surfing the internet I came across her posting on a cancer blog from women with cancer. Her posting mentioned her mom's cancer was in remission and she hard sold monavie to the other cancer patient. She stated it made her mom painless through her chemo treatments and alluded to the fact that it was a factor in her cancer being in remission!!
I have to ask. What is wrong with you people? Are you so desperate in life that you just throw all common sense out the door. If it is true that her friend's mother stopped taking her high blood pressure medication because of monavie then I only pray that this woman doesn't have a stroke or heart attack. High blood pressure is extremely dangerous and medication should never be discontinued without advice from a Doctor. That incident was enough of a jolt for me to think my friend was out of her mind. But then you add the cancer board incident. People with cancer, consider Farah Fawcett, will try anything, because anything is worth a shot when you think you are going to die. How can a person hard sell a fruit juice claiming medical results with people who are already on a roller coaster with cancer. This is unforgivable even after I told my friend that the FDA does not allow sales reps to make medical claims about this juice. She still is out there doing it. Does she not have a conscious or does she really believe a fruit juice is the end all cure for these ailments.
What are you people thinking by ripping off family, friends, and sick people with a $40.00 fruit juice, and making fraudulent medical claims. You should all be ashamed of yourself. This is not a job, but a con job.
Anytime I come across a post from a monavie rep making medical claims of any kind in regard to monavie juice, I am going to forward it to the FDA and if I know the state that rep is from, that rep's State Attorney General. I realize people can say no to buying this monavie, but not so much people who are sick and looking to cling on to anything to change their situation. Shame on you monavie sales rep who are touting this product as a medical miracle. If you want to sell this product for what it is, a $40.00 fruit juice in a fancy wine bottle,then more power to you. Just stay away from the medical claims.

Hap,

Another good question. Sodium benzoate and Potassium sorbate are both preservatives commonly found in many foods and beverages.

They are classified as GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) by the FDA.

Sodium benzoate is most effective against bacteria, while potassium sorbate tends to inhibit yeasts and molds.

Sodium benzoate (AKA benzoic acid) works best in acidic foods and beverages. That is the reason that MonaVie adds citric acid. It'll lower the pH, giving the sodium benzoate the best conditions to inhibit bacterial growth.

There have been some studies linking sodium benzoate to the production of a carcinogen (benzene) in the presence of ascorbic acid (vitamin C). This probably is not a problem in MonaVie, due to the low ascorbic acid levels (www.mensjournal.com/superjuices-on-trial)

As you mentioned, sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate are common food preservatives. I do have a concern with this. There are very few studies on the long-term cumulative effects of preservatives.

If we are consuming preservatives from multiple sources, how does that affect our health years down the road?

This is especially true with children. That is one reason that I do not recommend daily doses of MonaVie, or any juice/beverage, containing preservatives for children.

Andy B, I'll pass along your message but I can answer the question for you. Not yet, but you will be the first to know when he does, so you can swallow your words (and your vienna sausage sized penis) when it happens, how about that?

Mark

Research mlm's and you will learn that very few people actually get paid. You might try looking at your ohp. I saw someone on here trying to claim about 10 different ways that mv has cured them, liar,liar ,liar, how can you lie to friends, uncool. Now once again take your overhead ( your time, gas, food for tasting parties, oh yeah the mv you pour and the bottles you give away,also the time you spend everyday talking about it, time is money when you are discussing your product, Right?) once again research mlm's I cant stress this enough, I'm not trying to fill your head with B.S., check it out.

Monavie is yesterday's news and these little juice puppets can't stand it. Didn't you get the memo? The next big thing for you idiot pitchmen is the shop to earn business systems. Team National....Shop to Earn...and the like. To be serious Monavie is actually a bargin compared to those scams.

It's very simple why most people fail with these MLM systems. They get fed a line of crap that the product sells itself. You know why? It's because the people who run this scam know full well most people don't want to be or wouldn't be very good at being salespeople. Unfortunately, that's exactly what you need to be to make any money at all in MLM. God people just look at the income statement Monavie puts on their website. As of the end of 2008 80,789 distributors were paid bonuses. 82% of those folks are making less than $2032 for the year. Another 10% make $4095 for the year so overall 92% of the folks make less than $4100 a year. 4% at $9141, 2% at $18,835, and 1% at $29,526. So being kind you can say 99% make $29,526 or less but the reality is that 96% make less than $10K for the year. As usual with these MLMs less than 1% of the people are making the so called big money. These are usually the folks who got in at the start. Wow what a great opportunity. You can make more money if you got a full time job paying you $5 an hour.

LHS of Michigan I don't think your post was long enough. Please double the length of complete BS in your next post. Not to mention your post is full of the exact crap that everyone here is talking about. Ridiculous miracle differences after just one bottle? Do you expect anyone with a brain to believe that crap? Oh look another person with a diabetic parent who was cured. Seriously though that posting just takes the cake as far as brainwashing is concerned. Not to mention 75% of it looks like it was cut and pasted from some kind of promotional write up on Monavie.

Hap, you say you've never heard or read a claim then you post that you have heard lots of them, specifically about MonaVie. How can you have it both ways? How do you explain the various sites with on going heath claims and misrepresentation about financial gains that may be possible and also probable? Do you believe those are all people posing as distributors to give the company a bad name?

If you think you are going to be rich and a millionaire selling this stuff then its already to late for you and they have milked the standard $50-$250 from you as a new "distributor" and you are now disposable as the whole structure of 99% of MLMs is that you dont actually SELL A PRODUCT you sell people into thinking they are going to get people to sell and actually do the work , but nobody actually ever does and therfore thats why its a pyramid because as long as people keep becoming distributors it feeds the monkeys at the ground floor . simple . the product could be petrified dog excrement it would work exactly the same and actually proabably garner more interest. The only question you need to ask yourself if your are ensnared in this scam is who can you convince that they will be able to build thier own huge downline of slaves to sell this compost and kick back and cash the checks that will mysteriously start appearing in thier mailbox as thier brainwashed workers are going door to door peddling your product . ( this never actually happens but your ability to build this vision in someone elses head so they write that first and last check is all you need - Nobody wants to sell this slime or work hard , everybody involved it thoroughly convinced that this is the magic stuff thats going to make them rich overnight and be thumbing thier noses at all those poor working stiffs with real jobs from thier 150 Ft Yacht - well the reality is that yacht will be a pirouge boat about 7 ft long and taking on water that you need desperatly to catch your dinner!

Peeking in, wondering if Booby J has his mercedes yet

FOOD TECH

I have another question for you.

These chemicals are in our everyday food not just in Monavie,so tells us why they are in there? Sodium benzoate and Potassium sorbate.

Thank you.......HAP

Jeff. You are NOT a MonaVie distributor. You're one of the losers on this board only wishing you were one of us.
People in this business are NOT arrogant asswipes like you Jeff, and even most of the losers on here know that much.

Mark

FOOD TECH

Thank you so much for your response. The neighborhood kid is interested in science and asked me if I knew. Since I don't, you came to mind. Your in the wrong business you should have been a teacher.
Thank you again ......HAP

SNAKE-OIL BUSTER

Here is a good example of a person calling themselves a distributor.

JEFF, says he is a Monavie distributor and he calls another distributor... YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND COME ACROSS AS A IGNORANT MORON!! Would you want to be in his downline? And he represents Monavie? Now if he was truly in the business and wrote like an arrogant fool to another distributor ,no matter what company he represents I would drop him in a heartbeat and take by downline with me. Why would you want to be associated with someone like him?

He knows BofVA has a website and her e-mail address. If your that upset with someone contact them first not on here. It just shows that he is NOT what he says he is.

In his own words: YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND COME ACROSS AS A IGNORANT MORON!!

tried the drink---not bad-- taste gets an 8 -- hard to describe-- a combination of citrusy nectar + vanilla. Very unique. Kick factor is a 7. Got about 3 1/2 hrs of smooth lift--nothing dramatic. Best part....never a jitter...never a crash. I liked it. However, the "E" drink that is out now lasts longer. If you are into energy drinks...the "E" drink is better (one is caffeinated//lasts for hours w/ no crash!) The "E" company comp plan, FYI, blows the binary to pieces.

emv

Jeff, I mean Smelly, how I ALWAYS feel? How juvenile. Nothing is ALWAYS except the spews from you. But thank you for sharing.

One thing I am very glad about, that you Smelly Jeff are NOT a Monavie distributor.

This is all very annoying to see in a blog, grown adults gridlocked in a www arguement, not even a proper debate, no poise or professionalism-- over something only one side has any real information on. It makes me realize what Monique from Florida said is very true.

"It is a product you do not have to push. It reveals it's value to those who are looking for wellness, and it sells itself. Never push the product, because you will never have to push it at anyone. Just Invite, Taste and Share, to the people you esteem highly." Unfortunately, too many under-trained, unprofessional, greedy reps have pushed others to sell and turned off some key people, while the rest of us who do value the product have to shed that image from the get go.

I tried Mona Vie because I saw how it was made and what it was doing for my parents. My Dad is a Navy man of 73 years young. But his skin is always leathery and hard. Over the past two months I noticed his skin softening and becoming less wrinkled, tighter around the face and neck, color returning to his fair german face. My mom is Italian, 71 years old, and has for many years had difficulty losing weight and sleeping at night. She's lost weight without much effort. She has less swelling in her joints, moves about energetically and appears well rested. Now Mom has a lilt in her walk like I haven't seen since I was 8 years old, and her skin is showing same if not more improvements. Their overall circulation has improved, and they asked me to try the juice they'd been drinking. I saw the information and knew the berries from my anthropology and biology classes at CMU 20 years back.

My parents gave me a bottle and asked me to try it, and tell them what I thought. Now, I've been to the Born Clinic for my health, and bad digestion, and liver and kidney problems, food allergies to numerous to list. From the start, the first day I felt a difference. My stomach didn't feel inflamed and raw anymore. The stabbing gut pains eased away gradually over the next two days. I felt satiated even before my meal! I found I ate less and didn't want seconds. I've slept like a baby since that day, unless I felt over rested and stayed up to read. Insomnia has bothered me since I was in 7th grade. I haven't had any insomnia since I started drinking this juice two months ago. My hip joint is not grinding away when I walk. I am going for 1 mile walks every day for the past week! Two months ago, that would have put me down off my feet for a month. After the second bottle, I asked how much it was. Can I just buy a case? No, my parents just wanted me try another bottle. So I couldn't argue. Now I am not wanting to go back to my achey breaky life, and thinking seriously today about selling it.

Listen, This isn't just juice. It is a whole food that your body requires at the molecular level to repair, mend and defend. It is a sports medicine fantasy in a bottle.

It equals 15 fruit servings/day and levels your blood sugar ALL DAY LONG. Did I mention my Dad's diabetic and no longer has to take any medicine for it? The Dr. told him to keep up with whatever it is that he's doing. If that's a side effect, with Diabetes on both sides of my family, I'll take it!

Well it's expensive you say. The food pyramid has now adjusted our daily fruits and vegetable servings from 5/day to 7-13 servings per day. Price that out for 7 days a week times the number of members in your family, ($126 for a family of 4) and show me where it fits in your refridgerator and pantry each week, and how you plan on carrying that in your lunch each day? then tell me which you can better afford. Most grocery stores don't even stock all these 19 fruits, so add the gas mileage to that shopping journey...and this is just fruits- no other groceries!

I'll take a case and save some time and money for my kids.

God is happy about this juice. I know it. Sure, we are all human and some of us more squirrel than human, but don't let a pack of squirrely, greedy, under-trained reps take away your right to try something wonderful.

If you happen to be one of those under-trained reps that PUSH this product, take a breath! Give us a break and commit to attending some training sessions, they meet and web cast for you to train for FREE, so what are you pushing it for? Model it! I saw the glow and asked my parents what was different, you can do it too.

If you really want to know about this blend, then just try a bottle. Still skeptical? Try the second bottle -- then try going without it to remind yourself of the difference, with all your aches and pains and sleepless nights, and stubborn spare tires. I did. It all comes back, slowly at first, but it comes back.

I'm now on my 8th or 9th bottle, and I don't want to go back to being stuffed full of toxins and crap - cranky like the most of you out there that have nothing better to do than sit around bashing this stuff. I just want to feel this young for my family and my husband and myself. My husband and I were actually considering taking a couples dance class last night, was I dreaming? No!

I was never pushed into trying it. I was seeing what it did for my parents and said "I'll have whatever you're having!"

I'd already tried the pure acai berry capsules for weight loss and there is no comparison to what Mona Vie does for the body. I had no results with the capsules, but with Mona Vie I have lost 8 lbs so far and counting, plus the good sleep, the agility and energy boosts. But my diet has stayed the same, except I no longer crave sweets as much.

This is not a new invention. We've known about this acai berry's punch for centuries. But when a man, Dallin, who has compassion enough to not hoard all the berries for his business, and has the food science balls enough to build a WHOLE FOOD with 19 fruits synergistically blended for our body's assimilation to heal the wear and tear of ageing, while at the same time he gives back to the source region and works to save the rain forests for our Oxygen production, AND EMPLOYS, TEACHES AND BETTERS THE QUALITY OF LIVING FOR natives of the region, formerly living in squalor, He BUILDS SCHOOLS AND HOMES FOR THESE PEOPLE... Well then,You seriously don't have a clue as to how embarrassed you really will be to see what a heart this company has for our EARTH and for all people.

We are a forgiving people by nature. I am not in a "occult" for this juice. I am an Art Teacher. I am a normal everyday person. I garden and create in various mediums, but I am no occultress. I research my subjects for hours if not days prior to teaching them. I give the same if not more attention to what I put into my body.

We don't have to push the juice. Understand we are just so excited we just want you to taste and see for yourself. If that's pushing to you, I am so sorry you've missed this opportunity.

I'm going to Auburn Hills to meet Brig Hart tonight. I am so excited! He's a self proclaimed "difficult child/surfer dude" who's now Crown Black Diamond. That's the kind of people Art Teachers love to meet.

If you don't want to miss an opportunity like this, go to brighart.com and view the MORE project video, and re-examine your heart.

B of VA...from one monavie distributor to another..YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND COME ACROSS AS A IGNORNANT MORON!! You are a embarrasment to this grat company..Just shut up for a while and try to work your business if you know how!!
People could care less how you always feel after popping your E can. I don't mind saying...there are a few monavie distributors on this site that come across CLUELESS!! For the rest of us in the business...TONE IT DOWN AND KEEP YOUR STUPIDITY AND BRAGGING TO YOURSELF!!!

JEFF

td, are you the same td that just got back from the convention and had said you've been drinking Monavie for 9 months and now you say you buy acai by the pound? Just wondering.

www.theactiondrink.com/bdu/EMV-blend.aspx

www.theactiondrink.com/bdu/EMV-blend.aspx

The new replicated BD website for Monavie E.

Today I drank one ounce of Monavie E and I feel very even and the afternoon is moving right along. A reason is I opened two cold cans and gave people shooters and I wanted to do the amount they were doing. I then gave lots of cans away. Tomorrow I'll probably try a whole can. I'm very impressed so far!

From what I'm hearing people are going to at least be doubling their next orders and the product isn't ready to ship out. Jacksonville will have it by July 7 for pickup. We may have to ration to have enough for drinking, feeling and sharing.

Are you people for real? Can it be possible that people like you have this much time to post your non-stop rantings about a bottle of juice? Yes....a bottle of JUICE not snake oil, a cure all, wonder drug.....just JUICE. Hey guys....time to get off your computers, walk outside your trailers and take a look at the real world. Go back inside your trailer, take your hand out of your pants, change your yellowed wife beater tee shirt and get a life (and a job).

If you talk to any doctor,dietician, or trainer they will tell you a good diet and exercise will do more for you then anything. The okinawans have the longest life span of any society on this planet, eating healthy and exercise. If you really truly want to be healthy I suggest you research why this is. I did and let me tell you it doesnt cost me $140.00 a month to do so. One other thing is if you drink the suggested amount of mv 1 - 2 ounces twice dailey you will have to open another bottle before the week is up, at 2 ounces twice daily thats 4 ounces a day, now times that by 7 and you have 28 ounces, there are 25 ounces in a bottle, isnt that a little strange. It is an expensive product. I buy my own organic usda approved fruits and vegetables and have also purchased acai freeze dried and mix up my own drinks. I receive my acai from the same place that 90% of consumers I purchase this for $30 for a pound then I decide how much to add, I'm not saying that mv isnt beneficial, I would be lying but for the average person there are much cheaper ways to be healthy take it from the okinawans.

For HapEinAM: Thanks for the question. If you have a kitchen scale that measures in grams you can try this simple test.

Set a small plate on the scale and tare (zero) it.

Weigh ten grams of MonaVie (shake well first) on the plate.

Place the plate in front of a small house fan (low setting)

Allow to stay there until all of the water evaporates and is dry to the touch.

Re-weigh the plate and remaining particulates.

Subtract the weight of the remaining particulates from the 10 gram starting weight.

The difference in weight is the percent water.

Example 10 grams to start 4 grams left over would mean 60% (6 grams) of water.

In the case of a fruit juice, this does not mean this water is all "added water."

Fruits contain a high level of water, as well.

This is only a rough method for determining moisture, but is one that can be done at home.

Gee stockbroker, I guess you are used to people telling you that you drone on and on. Just remember you said you have never tried Monavie. So just what makes you an expert. Oh well. Next!

TD, it is for those reasons that I don't go to conventions. That is not how I would spend my money. Instead I would go to an animal sanctuary and have a consciousness raising experience such as www.bestfriendsanimalsociety.org The convention was the largest yet for Monavie but it could also be watched on-line and apparently was watched internationally too.

Food Tech thanks for the sugar content. I drink 2 ounces of Monavie a day so I get half that and it is fruit sugar which the body wants. We need it to run things, even the heart. Now I don't tend to have 4 ounces of orange juice or 4 ounces of coke or 4 ounces of apple juice. I've never tried 4 ounces of V8 acai but apparently it is higher in sugar than Monavie. What is the "dose" of V8 acai? It tests weak in muscle testing so I'm not interested in trying it.

Truthseeker, why don't you just put the link (without the http). I'm curious about the truth.

Build the Juice (Amazed at the posts) I do hope you post again. You are a balm to my soul. I don't get addressed as Dear B of VA very much on here! All the best to you too in achieving your dreams to make a better world.

I won't use the TM for acetaminophen (sp?) but it should NOT be mixed with alcohol. Emergency rooms have protocols for people who come in after taking those pills and drinking, it causes liver failure. I knew one of those casualties. I never take it. You're drinking and get a headache and pop some of those pills and it could be the end of you if you don't get to an emergency room.

At least an aspirin is a copy of nature (the willow tree).

If you ever want to reach me check out my website www.treeberries.com You have a gorgeous Monavie family!

FOOD TECH

You can answer my question or not and I will understand.OK? How do you find out if there is any water in a product? Without spending and arm and a leg. I know you have the facilities to handle such a task but how about the average person finding out?

truthseeker: Do not copy and paste text from other sites.

Admin

SNAKE-OIL BUSTER

Sorry for not answer you as soon as I should I have been very busy. You don't have to call me out, I was safe by a mile. All kidding aside it was nice to hear from you.

I know what you are saying SOB, But how do you know who these people are? How do you know if they are distributors or just someone saying that they are? We know BJ, Breezy, Mark are distributors who are taking one hell of a chance to be on here.You and I know this post is for people who hate Monavie. They could lose their business

I've seen the bullshit claims,not only on Monavie but everything from rubber balls to atom bombs, but common sense tells me that's what they are, just BS. I don't ask people to believe me, What I write is my opinion and only my opinion. I do not belong to Monavie or sell Monavie. But I've been to enough meetings and conventions to know what BS is said about Monavie.

I have set at table with 8 to 10 people who are distributors,from California, Nevada, Arizona, Texas and Florida. I asked this question: Did you sleep better after drinking Monavie? I got a YES from everyone. I then asked if any one had any type of pain in their knees? Two young ladies said YES, I was then told Monavie contains glucosomine. I said to myself OK, It did the same for me. This is also hearsay. I ask if they could say these claims and was told NO, it's against the law to make any medical claims if they were selling it. Now this is what I experience. I'm not asking anyone to believe this. If it didn't happen to you then you are different then me. Do you believe the ones on this post who posted the medical claims? I sure didn't

What facts did I ignore? Like the ones you mentioned? "it grows hair' every baldheaded man in America would jam up the phone lines if this were true. This clown is a person who likes to turn the screws just to see what happens. He's not a distributor of Monavie but a distributor of false accusations.

Like BJ, Mark, Breezy and all the others they are not turning a deaf ear or a blind eye. They have to be very careful how they answer. Remember they are called "juice pimps, gutless followers, slop sellers" etc. then to top it off they are ridicule for their answers.

As for the $40 bottle, all the other MLM companies that sell juice, none have 19 fruits but have just one and their price is just as high. Take a look at what the price of a 55 gallon drum of camucamu or cupuacu sells for. Don't compare grocery store products to MLM. When you buy grocery store products it doesn't come with a business opportunity.

And also Snake-Oil Buster over a million people buy the product so 40 dollars didn't seem like a lot of money to them. Only the ones on the post.

Peeking in. Looking around. Laughing. Then seeing people are posting actual facts.
...Running like hell. Must find stupid people to sell juice to.

BJ

Got My Monavie E but it is too late in the day for me to try it. However, this link was sent to me. After watching you can click on the other one on the botton left (Most popular). Both are fun. One is about the athletes drinking Monavie. Major buzz going on about Monavie E being delivered, everywhere I read people love it.

www.monavietv.com/monavietv

Dear B of VA:

Thank you for clarifying BB's employer. Things become clear when you hear prideful comments about a person's product but research on the his own website is void. No future in continuing a conversation. I mean saying you can't compare prices - either your pay one or the other because it is free to get in MV.

I know you will join me in saying that some of these posts are futile and silly. Things are twisted and misrepresented when it comes to MV. When I say that my dear family and friends that are using MV are better off than using chemicals. Everyone on the planet knows I mean acetaminophen (sp?) and ibuprofen. Oh well, so much for honest representation. You and I both know there is a difference between shellfish glu. and plant derived glu. The rest of the world will catch up one of these years.

Can you believe that the FDA allows Campbell's to post USDA disease fruit claims. AMAZING!!!Claims are claims are claims are claims are claims. Research and reading is very important to making intelligent decisions and not down play honest attempts at make the world healthier.

Just to be clear to all reading, here are ALL 19 fruits that MV has.

Proprietary blend of açai (freeze-dried powder
and puree), white grape, apple, acerola, aronia, purple grape, cranberry, passion fruit, prune, kiwi, blueberry, bilberry, wolfberry, pomegranate, lychee, camu camu);
pear, banana, cupuaçu);

www.monavie.com
www.buildthejuice.com

Please check out the book "Harnessing the healing power of fruits" by Dr. Roger Rinn and Dr. Ralph Carson which explains the thought process the doctors and scientist used in choosing these 19 fruits. It is truly a one stop to replenishing what your body needs on a daily basis. Aren't you glad someone took the time to put these fabulous fruits together.

Link to look at book:
www.amazon.com/Harnessing-Healing-Power-Fruit-Paradigm/dp/159979196X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245726818&sr=1-2

It has been my pleasure to post along side of you, B of VA, please take my prayers and wishes for Gods plans for you in MV and for you to influence many and change the world one person at a time.

BTW, I am so excited to recieve my Emv shipment!!! We have so many dirt bike teen kids that are using creative ideas about making their with Emv own money. How awesome is that?
Well, must go and be the nutrition messenger and I will check in on you to cheer you every once in a while about these multiple Smelly's. How can you tell it is smelly anyway? Sooo funny!

a friend of mine told me about this site...and some of the posts, i really do find amusing. to me, you all sounds like a bunch of republicans. lazy, upset and looking to place the blame elsewhere. yes, i am a democrat. :) (i'm anxious to see how many i'll get a rise out of) haha! anyhow...

lazy, cause i personally have clients (albeit annoying ones) that consistently come into my office and try to convince me to buy this product or much less, join their sales force. i have NEVER heard of monavie, until a few of my clients tried to push it upon me. enough already. leave me alone.

upset, cause "i'm too ignorant to not pay attention to them" and "cash in on the opportunity of a lifetime". really, does my decision not to join you in this opportunity really upset you? or are you upset that you won't be able to increase your level of income off my sales?

looking to place the blame elsewhere, cause well...you're not making as much money as you thought you were. where is all that "residual income"?

we're all rational beings...and i really hope one can be rational about something like this. honest to god, i've never tried monavie...much less i really don't care. i see all these acai berry posts that people are putting on here...and it's really all great, but again, who cares (i mean, at least i don't). if i really need to get my acai berries, i can purchase a 16 oz bottle of vitamin water XXX flavor from Publix for $1.69. and i'll tell you what, it tastes damn good. it's pretty much the law of economics...it's going to account for the RATIONAL decisions people make.

listen, as a stockbroker...i see individuals ALL THE TIME, get suckered into buying these penny stocks. from there, they will tell their friend, then their friend will tell his or her friend...and so forth. and i know this happens cause in one month, i'll have 40 different clients call in to buy XYZ stock, "yeah, my friend told me to buy this...they got it at $0.005 and now it's at $0.01. they're already up 100%. it's got nowhere to go but up". they'll buy 500000 shares hoping it someday gets to a $1 a share. granted yes, a simple $0.001 or 0.01 cent gain can mean 100-1000% gain in one day. but, that's because you and everyone else is buying it and driving up the price. then, a month later...a huge selloff. driving down the price. and what can i do? unfortunately, i can't do anything. it's company policy to not solicit nor give advice on penny stocks that are trading at or below $1 a share. why is that, cause the firm knows that (not all, but most of them) it's a pyramid/pump and dump scheme. and like this product, there are ways around it. loop holes as they say.

outside of that, i'd like to think i know quite a few people within the community. a couple of them are prosperous individuals and members of the golf club i play at...but NOT a single one of them buys monavie. and the ones that do buy it, are the monavie sellers themselves. do you see what i'm getting at?

i know some witty, smart individual is going to make some smart comment a$$ about my profession...or that i spent so long to write this...or my possible grammatical errors..say i'm an idiot and that i have no idea what i'm talking about...and that's fine. but seriously, think about it. who is going to buy a $40 bottle of monavie other than yourself (don't know the details of it, but don't you have to buy a couple bottles yourself, then everything you sell after, you keep the profits? then again, this how ALL pyramid schemes work)...and again seriously, think of it rationally. put your religious beliefs aside and those dreams of being able to make $100,000 a month off of residual income...and granted there are those that DO make that kind of money. but what % are they to the rest of those selling...also, when did they start, waaaaay back when all this first started and they're reaping the benefits. and i hate to sound redundant, but again, think about it rationally...they WANT to keep this going. they need their income...cause once this all dies down and fades away, so does their residual income.

if i touched a nerve for some of you and annoyed you, well...so be it. but for the others, thinking about this...just really think twice about this. and really try to block all outside influences and think about this product, business plan in an objective fashion. does it really sound all that logical or reasonable to you?

For those interested in the sugar content of MonaVie and other fruit juices:

Information for 4 oz. serving

MonaVie - 12 grams
V8 Acai Mixed Berry - 13 grams
Apple Juice - 13 grams
Orange Juice - 11 grams
Coke - 13 grams

12 grams of sugar is equal to 3 teaspoons

Bob Blaylock: In your response to Amazed at These Posts, you neglected to mention two other "chemicals" used in MonaVie. Sodium benzoate and Potassium sorbate.

I just got back from utah at the mona vie national convention.
I wanted to find out about this company and its products. I have been drinking mona vie active for about nine months, but I have never spent any time as a distributor actively selling . I am a small business owner that does ok but I am always looking for good investments and oppurtunities, which led me to utah to find if this business was for me. I had my note pad in hand to take notes and with questions that I had come up with prior to going to the convention, very few of the questions I had were answered during the convention. The leaders of the convention( who are the founders of the company) did not give me the break down of the different products, the actual values that the products have, or different selling points. The time was most spent on diamond executives and there success stories, where they began and how much money they make and how there lives have changed all are great things but I came there to get to the nitty gritty of things, you know like most things any normal person would want to hear if there going to invest time and money into a company, I was not as excited about the products after leaving the convention as I was before attending. I talked with a gentlemen outside the convention that was with a group from miami that had flown in to check out mona vie. They heard about this company from a friend and were interested in the business. He told me he liked the excitement that people showed at the convention but he still wasnt really sure what the company was about. "I was disappointed that I never heard them speak about the actual business, it was mostly success stories of the top people involved in the business" he remarked.
I think they completely missed the mark here. I have been to other conventions in the past that actually give you information that you can take with you and use to benefit you and your company, thats the reason I go to a convention, to walk away with more information than I came there with.
The mona vie web site said that alex schaus would be speaking, who is a major reseacher on acai. I was disappointed when I found out that he was not there, and they had not replaced him with another speaker, so the one person I was looking forward to speaking didnt show.

FOOD TECH SHUT THE HECK UP!! WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE B. MULL. YOUR REPORTS AND COMMENTS ARE STILL AND ALWAYS A JOKE! VERY FEW AT BEST THAT I HAVE NOTICED TAKE YOU SERIOUS HERE. KEEP YOUR LITTLE FARM AND GARAGE LAB REPORTS TO YOURSELF.

REEN

Thanks FT, but Jennie never told us where she got the product or what the person who sold her the bottle(s) had to say. Wonder what she uses her refrigerator for. The bottles are not guaranteed after a month of being open much less in a warm refrigerator. If she kept a cucumber in there she would have a slimey mess too. I'm surprised she still has the bottles. What is she keeping them for. She could pour them in her garden like you did! That is what I would do.

I hope you all aren't thinking that our food Tech is suggesting that you eat peanut butter. It is NOT healthy. Almond butter would be a better choice. Peanuts are not nuts. they are legumes and a low quality one at that.

BB is back to blab on and on. BB some people like to drink their supplements and making glucosamine into a liquid is not common but appreciated and it comes from a tree nut. If you don't want glucosamine, drink the Original. That is already handled. It is called choice.

Feedback from Utah is the drink is amazing and no jitters like with others.

www.monavie-emv.com

Peeking in. Looking around. Laughing. Wondering if the losers found a real life yet....lmao

Answer is a resounding nope !!

and to the rest of you, I bid you a pleasant hello and keep up the good work.

MonaVie for health, AND LIFE !!

B J

B of VA: Jennie contacted me via email about finding a lab to check out the ropiness in her MonaVie. I told her to check out food labs in her area.

She had left out an important detail in her original comments on this site: both bottles of MonaVie were opened and had been in her refrigerator for over a month. Also, remember that she admitted that her refrigerator was warm.

I'm certain that the substance was bacterial slime, but in this case, it does not appear to be the fault of the product, but rather the handling of the product.

For B. Mull: It's nice to finally find someone who appreciates science.

Yes, we've known that the label on the MonaVie bottle is inaccurate. The number one ingredient is the same, as in most all ready-to-drink juices: water.

They can take a 1500 gallon mixing tank, fill it with water, add two tablespoons of acai, and one tablespoon of the other 18 fruits for all we know.

Let's look at it another way: the acai freeze-dried concentrate has an ORAC value of 1,027 umoles/gm. However, MonaVie only has an ORAC value of 22.81 umoles/ml.

Simple math tells us that the ingredient with the highest ORAC (acai) has been diluted at a ratio of 1 part acai to 45 parts other ingredients.

We can also review the study conducted by AIBMR (sponsored by MonaVie).

This study published in The Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry (vol. 56, No. 18, 2008) said the following:

"Thus, consumption
of 120 mL of the whole juice is equivalent to 7.2 g of dissolved material."

Again, basic math shows that the maximum amount of ALL dissolved solids is no higher than 6%. This fits in nicely with your calculations.

FOOD TECH'S WEEKLY FARM REPORT

ORAC VALUE: MonaVie Active: 22.81 umoles
Peanut Butter: 34.32 umoles

TOTAL PHENOLICS (AKA Polyphenols. The combined total of all plant-based antioxidants):
MonaVie Active: 1.48 mg/ml
Peanut Butter: 5.38 mg/gm

WINNER: Peanut Butter for higher levels of antioxidants

MonaVie Data from AIBMR study (sponsored by MonaVie. Directed by Dr. Schauss)

Peanut Butter Data from USDA ORAC Table of Selected Foods (2007)

Like most MLMs Monavie has lost tons of steam in a very short period of time. In fact the new membership based shopping MLMs like shoptoearn and team national are the new MLM flavors of the season. Of course like every other MLM 99% of the people get involved will end up losing money.

Amazed at these posts wrote:Bob, it never ceases to amaze me (at these posts) that someone who is actually on a blog trying to discredit another company, works for a "competitor".  It is arrogant of you to suppose that your company and mine are, in any way, “competitors”.  We have one product, out of the thousands of different products that we make, that is comparable to Monavie.  This one product probably accounts for a very tiny, almost insignificant portion of our total sales.  And yet the amount of this one product that we sell surely dwarfs the amount of Monavie that is sold.  If everyone who currently buys Monavie were to switch to our product, we wouldn't notice the difference.  If enough people who currently buy this product of ours were to stop, and switch to Monavie, to increase Monavie's sales twofold, fivefold, perhaps even tenfold; we wouldn't notice the difference.  Monavie is that insignificant compared to the company that employs me.It is extremely important to point out that you are trying to discredit a product that some of my very close family members and my dear friends (and thousands other) have found a natural relief and body beneficial antioxidants without chemicals.  Antioxidants are chemicals.  So is water.  So are vitamins.  So are all the substances of which fruit juice is composed.  If Monavie didn't contain chemicals, then all you'd be selling is an empty bottle, for forty dollars.  In fact, that bottle would have to contain a vacuum, because even air is a chemical.  The advertised point to Monavie, is, of course, antioxidants — a feature that Monavie continues to promote in spite of several different studies that have been done that show it to have a remarkably low level of antioxidants compared to many other juices and foods that are not nearly so overhyped or overpriced.You can write differences in price from a bottle of water to V8 juices but you are NOT comparing the same products. 19 FRUITS scientifically chosen for health benefit properties to a bottle of V8 juice (at the most is 5-6 (okay maybe 7) fruits WITH 26g SUGAR per 8 oz)of who knows how the acai is processed (processing of acai is NUMBER ONE consideration) PLEASE research the processes in depth as I have to determine the best process. Guess what sugar does to antioxidants???? So with a little research on these products you could say the fantastic acai berry is ruined in these products. Is that so surprising to hear that a natural fruit has been ruined by a manufacturer? There is no doubt when carefully analyzed which acai preserving process is better. Why consider this? Because our bodies need these properties to protect us against free radicals. The acai is unlike any other food that we have ever seen.   First of all, there is absolutely no credible scientific evidence that supports any claim that there is anything special about the specific combination of nineteen different fruits that Monavie uses in its products.  In fact, as far as I can see, the only point to using so many different fruits is so that they can use a smaller amount of açai, and still get away with claiming açai as the primary ingredient.  If açai is one ingredient out of nineteen, then the product can have as little as 5.27% açai, and still claim that as the first ingredient.  The particular V8® product which I have mentioned consists of eight different fruit and vegetable juices, so it could be as much as 12½% açai; and açai could be the last ingredient listed (it's not).  As for sugar, all fruit juice contains sugar.  Even açai juice contains sugar.  How much sugar is in Monavie?  The particular V8® product that I have mentioned does not contain any sugar, other than which naturally occurs in the juices from which is is made.  It probably contains less sugar than Monavie, since some of the juices from which it is made are vegetable juices that are generally less sugary than fruit juices.Your company (if it is Campbell's) DOES make these "USDA claims" statements. This is copied directly from Capbell's [sic] website from the V8 Acai juice."Eating lots of fruits and vegetables every day, as part of an overall healthy diet, may help reduce your risk of several chronic diseases, including stroke, heart disease, type 2 diabetes and some cancers. For more information about a healthy diet and the amount of vegetables and fruit that you should eat every day, visit MyPyramid.gov."  Fruit juice is good for you.  These are valid claims that nearly any juice product can make.  There is, however, a big difference between these claims, and those claims that we often see being made by Monaviemongers, such as your claim that the combination of nineteen fruits is any better than any other fruit combination, or the claims we've seen here about Monavie being used to cure or treat various diseases.  Monavie can rightfully make most of the same claims that V8® can make.  When its distributors make claims well beyond that, which are not scientifically-supportable, is where you go wrong.  But If Monavie stuck to making claims that were scientifically-supportable, then it couldn't claim to be any better than the dozens of other juice products on the market that sell for a tiny fraction of Monavie's cost.Bob, your cost of the Mona Vie product is not correct either. When you you sign up to be a FREE member(formerly 39.00) of Mona Vie you can buy the Mona Vie Active as cheap as 22.00 (for 25 oz bottle is $.88 per oz)per bottle.  «22 25.5 ÷» 86¢ per ounce, actually.  Still more than thirteen (13) times the cost of my company's product, and still not any better.  But it's not honest to compare the wholesale price of one product to the retail of another.  I don't know what the wholesale price of this product is, but I know that for certain internal purposes (assessing the cost of damaged product) we assign a generic value of ten dollars per case.  The 46-ounce bottles come eight to a case, so if you can use your wholesale value in discussing price, then I can claim that this product is only «10 8  ÷» $1.25 per bottle, which would give «1.25  46  ÷» a price of about 2.7¢ per ounce; making your reduced claim of the price of Monavie more than thirty times as much as my reduced claim of the price of V8®.PLEASE check the health benefits you can receive from the PLANT DERIVED GLUCOSAMINE instead of shellfish glucosamine (joint health) that is in Active. V8 does not have that valuable ingredient.  There is no difference.  Glucosamine is the same chemical, regardless of where it comes from.  Six atoms of carbon, thirteen of hydrogen, one of nitrogen, and five of oxygen.  It's not normally found in fruit juices, nor does it need to be.  If I think I need to add it to my diet, I'll take it in a separate supplement.

Hi Robert, ok first people need to add the http :// www in front of your links for them to work. Blog owner doesn't let them post.

I searched Field Leaders on Monavieonthemove and didn't get a hit. But the link to Mr. Shirou Oozono is still active and it is from last month. I don't know why you are concerned. I think it is fine for you to share his name in Japan. In fact, share the link. Let Monavie do the talking. And good luck. I bet they LOVE Monavie.

Amazed, it is Campbells that BB works for and that is damn amazing that Campbells makes health claims, I mean disease claims. And it happens to be on their acai page. He sells his product on here a lot. It is easy to want to share what one thinks is good but Monavie people aren't supposed to even though this IS a Monavie site.

I may have my Monavie E by Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest. I understand any orders now are on backorder. It was an explosion. At the Utah convention they also talked about the new patent that is issuing. You can watch the event on Monavie On the Move.

Energy to the Power of Monavie

foodbizdaily.com/articles/30258-product-monavie-emv-acai-berry-energy-drink.aspx

Well, well, well...It's been months since I have looked at this site and yep...the same 4-5 purple horror morons are still yapping their stupidity. You would think by now they would have found something better to do with life. While some us work real jobs some choose a lazy purple horror life style writing negative comments to those who dare to better their lives. See ya in another 3 months...I bet their will be smelly and his pea brained gang showing their ignorance.

Michael

Bob Balock has wriiten:

"I work for a company that has been in business for over a hundred and forty years, and which has a very large line of very solid, honest products. We are most famous for soup. Think of the very first brand of canned soup that comes to mind; yes, *THAT* company."

Bob, it never ceases to amaze me (at these posts) that someone who is actually on a blog trying to discredit another company, works for a "competitor". It is extremely important to point out that you are trying to discredit a product that some of my very close family members and my dear friends (and thousands other) have found a natural relief and body beneficial antioxidants without chemicals.

Bob also said:
"Among our line of beverages, we even have an açai-based beverage that is every bit as good as Monavie, and you don't have to pay forty dollars a bottle for it; you can buy a 46-ounce bottle (that's nearly twice the size of a bottle of Monavie) at Wal*Mart for three dollars. «3 46 ÷» gives me 6½¢ per ounce for my company's product, compared to «40 25.5 ÷» $1.57 per ounce for Monavie.

I am sorry to say "every bit as good" is inaccurate. You MUST, MUST, MUST compare apples to apples.
(I should say non-chemical treated apples to non-chemical treated apples) Mona vie has a certification of organic (here is the link ( www.buildthejuice.com/pdfs/monavie_organic_summary.pdf) You can write differences in price from a bottle of water to V8 juices but you are NOT comparing the same products. 19 FRUITS scientifically chosen for health benefit properties to a bottle of V8 juice (at the most is 5-6 (okay maybe 7) fruits WITH 26g SUGAR per 8 oz)of who knows how the acai is processed (processing of acai is NUMBER ONE consideration) PLEASE research the processes in depth as I have to determine the best process. Guess what sugar does to antioxidants???? So with a little research on these products you could say the fantastic acai berry is ruined in these products. Is that so surprising to hear that a natural fruit has been ruined by a manufacturer? There is no doubt when carefully analyzed which acai preserving process is better. Why consider this? Because our bodies need these properties to protect us against free radicals. The acai is unlike any other food that we have ever seen.
Guess what Campbell's (I am not sure why you won't say the name of your company) has posted the same study that I tell people about on the USDA website.

So in reguards to Bob's statement:

"Monavie costs twenty four (24) times as much as my company's product, and is not, in any way, better. Of course, you won't hear anyone claiming that my company's product will cure cancer, diabetes, ADD, insomnia, dandruff, hemorrhoids, or whatever else ails you. When you're selling fruit juice for 6.5¢ per ounce instead of $1.57 per ounce, you don't have to lie about it to get people to buy it."

Your company (if it is Campbell's) DOES make these "USDA claims" statements. This is copied directly from Capbell's website from the V8 Acai juice.
"Eating lots of fruits and vegetables every day, as part of an overall healthy diet, may help reduce your risk of several chronic diseases, including stroke, heart disease, type 2 diabetes and some cancers. For more information about a healthy diet and the amount of vegetables and fruit that you should eat every day, visit MyPyramid.gov."

Bob, your cost of the Mona Vie product is not correct either. When you you sign up to be a FREE member(formerly 39.00) of Mona Vie you can buy the Mona Vie Active as cheap as 22.00 (for 25 oz bottle is $.88 per oz)per bottle. PLEASE check the health benefits you can receive from the PLANT DERIVED GLUCOSAMINE instead of shellfish glucosamine (joint health) that is in Active. V8 does not have that valuable ingredient. REMEMBER "apples to apples".

The truth of all this back and forth discussion is you will never convince me nor I you. Hopefully this information that I have provided shows someone unsure of Mona Vie that it is not a get rich scheme or a product that is "JUST" fruit juice. This is cutting edge technology that will take a while for people to understand that we need this type of nutrition DAILY to protect us against many USDA proclaimed diseases.

If, after your own research, you discover Mona Vie is valuable. I would like to invite you to talk with your loved ones who could use non chemical nutrition and relief and just have them try Mona Vie. It will not hurt to give them 19 fruits daily. Watch and see what happens and let me know! You could very easily see why some would pay any amount of money for true undisputed relief and USDA suggested protection.

I humbly suggest that everyone get serious about your health and research this product and others to see the difference. We are not afraid of comparisons because Mona Vie has staggering evidence of incredible nutrition. Here are the clinical studies of Mona Vie and acai. http://www.aibmr.com/resources/articles-and-reports.php. If you have clinical studies of your product I would appreciate the gesture of posting them.

Happy researching! AND
Happy nutritional long life!

Watch the research on the acai in the future to see what is discovered!! Check out University of FL acai research! Good talking with you, Bob but I must move on and share Mona Vie.

We all know that B. Mull is Food Tech. Either way..he failed math in school. Good try Food Tech. Hope your garage lab is coming along.

REEN

B of VA Hi,

here is one link that is from May 09 for a person that went BD in Japan. you may need to cut and paste these links if they dont work directly.

monavieonthemove.com/monavies-newest-black-diamond%E2%80%94shirou-oozono/

and here is the other link to a couple that went BD some time back from Japan. however you must scroll half way down the page to find it.

monavieonthemove.com/monavie-celebrates-grand-opening-in-japan-2/

I remember they were on the list but it seems that now all the Japanese are off the list. The list in particular is the long one known as field leaders off the on the move site the one that has all the major ranks with photos.

rather then play ping pong posting here's why. I am in Japan at the moment on holiday. I am in monavie i do have contacts here in Japan and the last thing i want is looking like fool if i edify any people locally and they are no longer in the biz.

By the way thanks to the person who runs the site for posting this. I think it shows transperancy from both sides and to be honest people can have an opinion. I just think too many people get sucked into the cat fight that there product is better then the next persons. The question remains is there really a good product out there..... Juice, Car, Hotel etc etc there will never be a 100% perfect thing.

Ok back to the topic at hand. If someone who has a contact an idea as to my question let me know.

thanks

Robert

BB is pushing his product again. Everybody does it.

Did someone clone FT?

Here is the new website.

www.monavie-emv.com

MONAVIE'S MATH PROBLEM?

OK, so Açaí extract has 32.5 g total fat per 100 g dry weight, according to Wikipedia. This equals 9.75 g per 30 g.

Someone who has Monavie can verify this, but let's assume 30 ml of Monavie weighs about 30 g. (This is a fair approximation for juice.)

One serving of Monavie would have 9.75 g of total fat if it was pure Açaí extract.

In fact Monavie's label states 0.5 g per serving.

Assume the extreme case where the rest of Monavie's ingredients contribute 0 g of fat. (This is overly generous to Monavie's defenders, but hey.)

(0.5 g from Acai - 0 g from other ingredients) / 9.75 g = 5.1% Açaí maximum in this overly generous scenario.

But, to be the first of 19 listed ingredients, you have to be #1 / 19 = 5.3% Açaí minimum.

Since I am being overly generous in assuming all the other ingredients of Monavie contribute 0 fat, I suspect that the labelling on Monavie is inaccurate AND Monavie has less Açaí than white grape juice (the second listed ingredient).

Additional evidence comes from this line of reasoning: The fourth listed ingredient, Acerola Cherries, has an insane amount of Vitamin C (2795% RDA per 100g, according to the website MonavieLand) and thus cannot contribute more than 3% of the total content of Monavie. Therefore the fifth through nineteen ingredients must at most be 3% each.

The top three ingredients must constitute at least 52% of the total for the labelling to be correct, which would be impossible given what was discussed above.

I don't think the person who runs this post will respond to this but here goes. MONAVIE Emv!

What's wrong with this product? I am sure you can find something. What the can is too BLACK? It cost to much? It taste like juice? The color is too purple! WHAT? WHAT? WHAT?

HECK I AM SURE IT WILL NOT EVEN GET POSTED AND IF IT DOES IT WILL BE AFTER 4 NEGITIVE THINGS ABOUT THE GUY WHO TRY THE DRINK AND DIDN'T WIN HIS CHECKERS GAME! IT'S MONAVIE FAULT!

SOB, would you like to try some Monavie E? You might like opening a cold one. I should say when I started to read you I thought it was Smelly and didn't continue. He has bitching and moaning down. He's been holding that end up for you.

I gave a couple ounces to a person this week and when I asked her how she did on it, she said GREAT. She had a very busy schedule the next day and she felt good for it and got through great. Can I say that.........

She also started thinking about who else might benefit from Monavie. Many are stressed, overworked and undernourished.

The whole reason why we let people try it first is to let THEM decide.

Jennie dropped a bomb on this blog with her stringy Monavie and she has not answered any questions. I hope she does otherwise I will count it as disinformation. BUSTED!

Snake-Oil Buster wrote:To the handful of Monavie distributors worldwide that have the decency to say:"Hey, I have this great tasting juice with lots of fruits in it. It won't cure anything. It has no magical properties. In fact it's really just tasty and unique juice blend in a hip and happening wine bottle. Look at the nice logo. Oh yeah, and it costs $40 per bottle."I applaud you.  Of course, such people are going to have a very difficult time selling it.  Who will pay forty dollars for a bottle of fruit juice, just because “…it's really just tasty and unique juice blend in a hip and happening wine bottle”?  Monavie is only able to fetch such a price because there are suckers who are gullible enough to be convinced that it is something more than mere fruit juice.

Snake-Oil Buster wrote:To the handful of Monavie distributors worldwide that have the decency to say:"Hey, I have this great tasting juice with lots of fruits in it. It won't cure anything. It has no magical properties. In fact it's really just tasty and unique juice blend in a hip and happening wine bottle. Look at the nice logo. Oh yeah, and it costs $40 per bottle."I applaud you.  Of course, such people are going to have a very difficult time selling it.  Who will pay forty dollars for a bottle of fruit juice, just because “…it's really just tasty and unique juice blend in a hip and happening wine bottle”?  Monavie is only able to fetch such a price because there are suckers who are gullible enough to be convinced that it is something more than mere fruit juice.

“Amazed at these posts” wrote:Respectfully, I say that Bob misunderstands the concept of 100% of sales. Even Bob has participated in sales and does not even realize it. Unfortunately, he has not experienced the benefit of representing a solid product and earning a living.  I work for a company that has been in business for over a hundred and forty years, and which has a very large line of very solid, honest products.  We are most famous for soup.  Think of the very first brand of canned soup that comes to mind; yes, *THAT* company.  Among our line of beverages, we even have an açai-based beverage that is every bit as good as Monavie, and you don't have to pay forty dollars a bottle for it; you can buy a 46-ounce bottle (that's nearly twice the size of a bottle of Monavie) at Wal*Mart for three dollars.  «3  46  ÷» gives me 6½¢ per ounce for my company's product, compared to «40 25.5 ÷» $1.57 per ounce for Monavie.  Monavie costs twenty four (24) times as much as my company's product, and is not, in any way, better.  Of course, you won't hear anyone claiming that my company's product will cure cancer, diabetes, ADD, insomnia, dandruff, hemorrhoids, or whatever else ails you.  When you're selling fruit juice for 6.5¢ per ounce instead of $1.57 per ounce, you don't have to lie about it to get people to buy it.  There is a name for people who pay $1.57 per ounce for fruit juice; they are called “suckers”.Just because someone is trying to sell something does not mean that they are scamming them or "marking" them.  It depends on what you're selling, and how willing you are to accept that your mark isn't interested and wants to be left alone on the subject.  Selling fruit juice for forty dollars a bottle certainly constitutes “scamming”, especially when you do some on the basis that it is some sort of magical elixir that will cure whatever ails the sucker to whom you are trying to sell it.

HapEinAM, I am calling you out here and now!

In your response to Irv, you said "I have never heard a distributor say it's "a miracle cure " ONLY YOU."

Perhaps you haven't "heard", and not exactly in those words. But look through the blog, through the archives, check your local paper and I'm sure you'll see more of the same bullshit claims.

Read between the lines Hap. I'm sure you see exactly what I'm referring to.

There are distributors all over taking any despicable step necessary to lure someone in or get someone to buy this stuff.

Check the archives Hap. You were one of the few people on here that seemed to have some integrity. Now you're doing what everybody else does: Ignore the facts completely when it's CONVENIENT for you.

Last time I was full active on here, Breezy and Mark agreed with my position of being angry at the distributors who make preposterous claims and push the ethical boundaries in their Monavie businesses. Mark even said that they are the ones that fail and that the honest ones will succeed.

Well, thing is, when all these different Monavie distributors come on here claiming that:

"it grows hair" "you don't need medical insurance if you drink Monavie" "the pain I've had for 9 years disappeared after 3 days of Monavie"

And that's just from a few that are in my memory from this blog only.

You all stay on here claiming to be honest, ethical, and that you only wish to help people. Yet when some new nutjob comes on here spewing a new Monavie fantasy, you ALL remain quiet. Turn a blind eye and deaf ear.

Thanks for the inaction.

To the handful of Monavie distributors worldwide that have the decency to say:

"Hey, I have this great tasting juice with lots of fruits in it. It won't cure anything. It has no magical properties. In fact it's really just tasty and unique juice blend in a hip and happening wine bottle. Look at the nice logo. Oh yeah, and it costs $40 per bottle."

I applaud you.

Joe s so what do you do to actually make a living , you know something that yields more than enough money to buy a pitcher of Pabst Blue Ribbon at Happy hour once a year. This Mlm is just a giant stroke off for the idiots out there that feel like they achieved something by doing nothing because thay can say "I have my own company" -- what a bunch of BS barroom dribble pick any trailer-park dive bar and you can pull at least 5-10 distributors of this sludge out of there any day of the week . Thats what they call "sellin"

The world is a mess and these monavi people are proof. There is no valid proof that monavi does anything as beneficial for the body as it claims it does. No one can offer that up. Period. Nuff said. Poor souls.

way to go Breezy-- you get an "A" for nailing on the head what the real crisis is in this country!! You are one smart juicepimp! Keep up the good work and enjoy your MVE. Food fake-- go drink some green sludge from a purple bottle --it's the best part....then crawl back under your rock. Thanx.

mv4

To all who refer to this product as the: MonaVie Scam:

Take a step back and look at your life in general. There are those of US that do and are successful in everything we do and those of YOU that do (next to) nothing and blame everyone else for your failures. Maybe you are the same people who blame McDonald's for your obesity but yet you go there everyday and eat and then sit on the couch and drink beer. It's kind of like the Democrat's blaming everything on George Bush.

MonaVie presents an OPPORTUNITY to make money and increase your health and well being it will not work by itself. This business like any other business requires hard work, dedication, committment and more hard work. If you fail it is because you QUIT not because the product or opportunity failed you. YOU failed YOURSELF.

Time to get back to what made America the greatest country in the history of civilization...hard work, dedication, commitment and service to others. Winners never quit and quitters NEVER win.

Robert, what list are you looking at? Are you saying there is a long list of BD's somewhere and the Japanese are not shown? Once we reach a rank we remain at that rank whether we continue to be paid at that rank or not. So you are saying 3 weeks ago we had two BDs that we don't have anymore. Where is this list? Do you have a link?

Monavie on the Move shows a list of the newest ranks for a time period but it does not include everyone.

You are right Joe S, they want Monavie to give the product away and they would then "feel" better about it.

By the time this is posted, Monavie E could have been unveiled. I'm jonesing.

Ok you retards knockin monavie saying "dalin doesn't care about you he only cares about the money"

Dddddddduuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh!!!!

I bet if you even have a job 99% of the time your boss don't dgive a damn about you unless he's your daddy. Just so you know most people who start businesses care about the money dummy! WE ALL CARE ABOUT MONEY!! That's why we love monavie because it's a great product and it pays you in guess what.........turkey......no........cherry flavored Popsicles......no......that's right you guessed it MONEY yyyyaaaayyyy your so smart!!!!!

You might as well just jump on board you all will be soon anyways because the whole world will soon be on with us. So put down the cocoa butter get off the chat rooms and stop trying to hack into your sisters myspace account and do something with you lives losers!!!!

Mona vie for life!!!!!!
JOE S.

hey im just wondering. the black diamonds that were in japan were are they now. Some guy went black diamond only in May of 09. Do a search on the list of field leaders and it seems that both the japanese BD's are not there anymore?? Anyone have a true account as to whats happend.

thanks

Robert

Brad-T you are about as sharp as a ballon - you see if you are monitoring what I am doing and know exactly how often I am on here posting then you must also be doing the same ? In fact with MORE regularity as it takes me about 10 minutes max to post and I am gone - to work that is - a REAL JOB --in which I recieve a paycheck 2x a month sometimes more. You also make commentaries on others posts too - -so you are essentially obssesed with this blog . you have a new diagnosis "MLMOCDBD"- "Multi-Level -Marketing-Obsessive-Complusive-Disorder-Blog-Dimensia" Be careful this could spread to your family similar to H1N1 and with much more devastation . So did your mommy buy all your raffle tickets too when you were in girl-scouts? Tell her shes destroying your self-esteem by doing this and not letting you fail on your own to learn that making a real living requires hard work and inteliigence , not just going to mommy and daddy while they are enbroiled in Wheel of Fortune and asking for a check to show your upline how great sales are. Please also when you rebutt the REAL ISSUES that I normally bring up ( this is the exception because you need to be B*tch slapped a few times to wake up from your somnambulus state of zomboidial mlm brain chip implantment behaviour.) Try addressing the legitimate issues that I bring up related to this shell game .

Thanks FT, it is for that reason that aware people don't use cast iron frying pans anymore. As far as I know there is nothing to chelate iron with, no competing mineral or vitamin so the only way to get rid of it is to give blood. Maybe the leeches weren't a bad idea afterall.

What does iron do, it causes us to rust inside. I think vitamin/mineral pills should not contain iron. It should only be used specifically, not generally.

I don't use cereals and now have another reason. Fortified is deadly. Eat close to the earth.

We do NOT have a health care crisis in this country, we have a FOOD crisis.

Still drinking my purple slurple.

I see in a Monavie email I just received that there will be a power breakfast out your way for women (building strength). Wish they would put that on here. By this time next week I should have my Monavie E !!!!!!

Bob Blaylock has written:

"Not just about MonaVie, but this is something I have found to be insidious and destructive about MLMs in general. I've had close family members get sucked into the scAmway cult, and feel a need to “ [talk] … to the people in his life” about scAmway. Suddenly, instead of being treated like sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, friends, or whatever, those close to such a person end up being treated instead as suckers and marks be to dragged into the scam and taken advantage of."

Larry's "people in his life" is not limited to immediate family or friends. I do not expect Bob to understand in detail how this type of system works. I too did not understand how this works and it is brilliant. If you are a honest, trustworthy, upstanding individual you will reach out and work with people to make their financial goals (which involves alot) and in turn this helps you in a binary system. This brilliant "helping" system does not exist in corporate America. Please open your eyes to the entire picture. Larry had people in his life that HE brought to Mona Vie and had a moral obligation to work with them and he chose not to. These people are "the people in his life".

Respectfully, I say that Bob misunderstands the concept of 100% of sales. Even Bob has participated in sales and does not even realize it. Unfortunately, he has not experienced the benefit of representing a solid product and earning a living. I am absolutely certain that Bob has "sold" his experience or resume to get a job or relationship. Guess what, Bob got paid for years on that one sales job!

This statement also shows that the attitude about "sales" that is not taking place "in a building" is somehow wrong. Next time you get together with friends and family step back and listen to what is going on. There is so much selling going on that you never realized. It may (or may not) be for a profit/ego boost but in some way someone is leading people to buy a product or participate in something if they have had a great experience with
Just because someone is trying to sell something does not mean that they are scamming them or "marking" them. If it is a trusted family member then you should trust them. There are, of course, poor judgments and poor representation of a product. I am not Amway fan either. But there are people that love the Amway products.
Whether Bob likes or not, this type of sales training/study (because it attracts loving caring people to build a business by, believe it or not, truly caring for them and their financial situations)is being offered in college educations like Harvard. It is powerful and there are trustworthy, honest, hard working people who have found an alternative way of feeding their family. Openmindedness to a new age of earning a living when there are few jobs that suit a person with a degree is needed. How do I know that, I am experiencing it. Ask Larry how he felt to see the people that he placed in MV make really good money and put food on the table.

Larry you don't present very well. Really. Read what? They say on here you are a nice guy but really man. You have not told us what your business is and then you spend energy telling us about a no-named competitive product. I had even asked you what took you from Monavie. There was no answer. If I deduce that you are into that no-name juice product that has impressed you so much, it is a natural assumption. I have already done enough searching of you to learn that you are into WowGreen. I've heard about it but don't know much. Instead of spitting at us why don't you just be honest. I'll READ if you write.

Jennie if you have product with long strings in it I would contact the person who sold you the bottle. Did you get it off of ebay? Is there an expiration date on it? Did it get overheated at some point, like sitting in someone's hot car?

The matter I am talking about is fat with tiny seed particles. I would not drink that bottle that you have. Stringy stuff is not natural. Who have you contacted about this?

B of VA,

I believe you're describing sediment as opposed to ropiness. As you mentioned, sediment will disappear when shaken. Ropiness will not disappear. If anyone has a question as to what you're looking at, shake the bottle well before examining.

Jennie, you can have the substance examined at any food lab in your area. A simple gram stain will confirm bacterial slime.

I can perform this test, if you'd like, for free. Contact me at Foodtech101@Yahoo.com

B of VA,

That video is a classic. We performed the same test in college years ago.

Yes, cereal contains reduced iron. It's harmless, but makes for a great science demo.

Cereal is not a good way to get your iron. Most of it passes through you before it dissolves.

You can also find traces of iron in your food when you cook in a cast iron frying pan.

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Hey KAIT - IF what you espouse is even marginally true and you are Mother Teresa and the Dali Lamma rolled into one , then why would somebody , honest and intelligent like you get hornswaggleded into selling something that the "managment" aka the "top dawgs" Aka the "Double Dip Blue Faced Black Diamond dinks" or in laymens terms - the guys who run this schill dont give a rats left prong who is hired or who quits ???? They dont care about you ...only to the extent that you will somehow get them $$$$ and they dont quite frankly have the high morales that you do and even prove it with thier consistently INCONSISTENT dribble on the product and overcomming peoples objections and getting the sale and recruiting etc. its all about getting new schills that will lay up as much as possible to get in as a "Distributor" somebody:............................. Play bethoveens 9th and throw a party you are now an official distributor !! whopdeedo- So if you can just continually SELL people on the idea of SELLING and you have made a SALE ! thats the whole game here --they dont care if anybody sells the stuff with regularity - those of the super-idiots bonafide morons with IQ;s that match shaq's shoe size . This is about 1/10,000 about the "product" and %99.99999 about getting money however you can and as much as you can for as little of this stuff as you can fork over because then it builds "value" in the product if its expensive ---BS ---- That is officially the companys new mission statment
"we here at money-viva are dedicated to the upperline of long titled white guys that we all know are very smart and would never lead us astray , having repeated this 1 million times , I now can advance to the real goal which is BS- BS is what this company runs on and cant live without . BS is what we live day in and day out . Do whatever it takes to make certain that all statments about product efficacy are majorly ambiguous and vague and that all distributors are prohibited from interacting with each other for purposes of discussing the rules and oulines of the compnays way of doing business, its each distributors OWN DUTY to make up thier own BS and have it be fresh and effective , if not we will provide you with the BS starter kit at a fair price. You must get a P.O Box . happy selling !

“Amazed at these posts” wrote:2. If Larry had continually talked about MV to the people in his life instead of "his new business venture" his downline would not have clicked off of autoship. If you want to continue a relationship do you need to communicate with them.  Not just about MonaVie, but this is something I have found to be insidious and destructive about MLMs in general.  I've had close family members get sucked into the scAmway cult, and feel a need to “ [talk] … to the people in his life” about scAmway.  Suddenly, instead of being treated like sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, friends, or whatever, those close to such a person end up being treated instead as suckers and marks be to dragged into the scam and taken advantage of.

Irv,

New experience? Never tried that! So how did the turd taste?

You missed the part on the post about the Mona Vie return policy working pretty well and the part about the better distributors who are in this for the long haul will back returns up even further with anything they sell to a customer or their personally sponsored people with an on the spot money back guarantee and if required they will work it thru the customer service department.

Hey B of VA. Man are you dumb.
READ MY POSTS! I did not take up with a competitive product. I joined a company that promotes the green movement. It has NOTHING to do with juice at all. I was merely pointing out that there is another juice company out there that will hurt MV badly in the coming months. I am not involved with it!
God, how stupid are some of you. READ< READ< READ.

little dodo birdie - You are a prime example of mainstream ditributor air-head that I speak of and obviously only an expert in one field SSRI drug ingestion, which I have no experience with . Do you take more of this poozac than this fruit juice ?? well anyhow you exemplify the standard uneducated person that gets to sell this sludge with no prerequisites whatsoever except comming up with money. I made some great points as to why this marketing structure is flawed and designd to hook the dumb of the dumbest into trying to sell thier closest inner circle of friends and family FIRST and that serves one purpose to embarass you into not, quitting otherwise you look like more of a fool. You couldnt ( like an adult ) rebutt that or any of the other points I made -instead you do what 3rd graders do which is to mount some absurd personal attack about prozack ,which of course has nothing todo with anything that I exposed as being flawed about this stuff , and you did that becuase , #A -you lack the intelligence to actually debate an issue, #B are to Juvenille to even attempt to put together more than one or two sentences that actually make any sense. You are a shinning example of EXACTLY what I say is the biggest problem with this stuff- The vetting process is non-existent and they end up with daft undeucated people that are 99% gulliable followers and choose to do this becuase they have failed at everything else in life and think this is thier ticket to being rich===your odds are better with the lottery dodo bird.

Food Tech...the slime I found in the Monavie is long and stringy. I can't believe that its suppose to be there. There's no way I'm going to eat it! I checked my refrigerator temperature. You were right. It was 47. I'm lowereing it now. My sister said she has found stringy material in her Monavie in the past but just threw it out. Is there a way to have it checked to see if it is from bacteria like you said? How do we do that? Thank you for your help.

I'm sorry Food Tech but this time you don't know what you are talking about. If you actually studied Monavie you would see in the unopened bottles the green fat collect where it lays (lay the bottle on its side for the biggest view). You HAVE to shake this product up to get all that to mix up. No ropiness FT. It is fat that lays. If a paper cup is used for the shooter you can see it is an evenly coated green fat on the cup where the Monavie once was. If you are Gene Simmons you can lick it up, otherwise use a clean finger if you are smart.

Want to see what food techs bring to us -- check out this short vid. I'm not saying our favorite FT would do this. We'll let him spend his time speculating on something he knows little about (Monavie), although it is always interesting.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ahlawrQHeA

Smelly is allowed to excrete all over this blog and he never gets reined in. Best to just not read him. Leave his posts to his audience: irv and company.

Thanks Amazed at these posts!! Sometimes I feel like I'm in the wrong playground. If one person is listening then I'll stay!! She who laughs, lasts.

Irv you brain dead moron. The IDS also doesn't tell you that the majority of low income earners with Monavie are the newest people to get in. While many losers like YOU drop out within the first year, there are others, (Like Larry) who stuck with it and earned 4K a week.
The only thing that made Larry a loser like you is his greed.
Get a life, Irv.

mark

This is to B of VA (I think I know who you are). I have read your posts and I just had to tell you that your responses are always taking the high road. It makes me proud to be in MV with you. This is the exact thing that attracted me to do the business side of MV. You do not insult or put down. You use awesome humor "Irv and a Blue Diamond - best friends" OHHH that is hilarious!!!

While reading Larry's post. There are so many obvious reasons that Larry needed to leave MV. He does not even realize that if you are in the MV business and understand how all this works in extreme detail that sticking up for him means that you do not understand what really went down with his case. He had alot of people counting on him! Yes, times are hard BUT being creative in a business setting is key to sustained growth.
Here are the things that are obvious:
1. To be at the level of $4k per month you had to have put in ALOT of hard work OR you have an upline that is adding to your organization. He probably did do 3-4 tastings a week for his downline and they built their organizations under him. If Larry had not gotten wrapped in the "RECOGNITION" at MV events and R3global events and spent too much money on travel he would not have dropped so drastically. You do not have to go to these events if you can not afford them. He should have not spent all the money on his Mona Vie can on stuff and paid for the airline, hotel and conference instead.

2. If Larry had continually talked about MV to the people in his life instead of "his new business venture" his downline would not have clicked off of autoship. If you want to continue a relationship do you need to communicate with them.

3.Only Larry knows what truly happened and he stopped being a Blue Diamond a long time ago and his organization fell apart!

4. I have never relied on the "Big dogs" to come and help my business. Through honest' open' conversations with family, friends and new friends this has grown for me.

BTW, Can I have Dallin cell phone number. I would like to talk to a very wealthy, made a fantastic health product, at just the right timing, has paid out millions in commission to you and me and countless others, taking this company to $20B, gave you an amazingly kind offer to join him again, Multi Millionaire. Since you don't need it anymore. You must be able to do better that him. Best wishes!!!

Food Tech couldn't make it as a so called food scientist..so now he works in the refrigerator business. If you need a refrigerator repair just call FOOD TECH. He also fixed my toilet.

Chris

Well I was reading this website when I realized how unfair and how uniformed you all are. Its not my place ot judge you all but I hope that each of you would look further into the information before posting what you think about the Juice on the site. I am an active monavie distributor and find nothing cult-like about it. Nor do I tell anyone that this juice can make you rich or cure you. This is not a miracle juice, and I will not make false claims that it is. neither with my down lines or uplines. I feel sorrow for you if that is how you were approached with this juice. This buisness is for people who are serious about changing their lives and the people are them. This buisness focuses on communication, team work, leadership, and moral values. My hope is that you will research this juice more.

So Larry it actually is a competing product and you expected to be able to double dip?

I know you are angry but what did you expect would happen. Here I thought you had taken up with a different product to supplement your income but it appears you took up with a product to specifically compete with your own organization. I'm almost speechless.

Monavie was fine for you in early May and then it wasn't. Monavie didn't change.

About the green slightly bumpy slime in Monavie, I take my (clean) finger and run it through the glass to get all of it. That is part of what makes Monavie unique. It is food, good food. Those EFAs in the acai are very important. We have a processing that protects them, are even getting a patent on it.

Someone help Brown Smelly Slug up their prozac dosage.
Ramble, ramble, ramble for 3 paragraphs and say NOTHING!
NEXT!

Jennie,

With respect to the other commentators, I do not believe this is an expected or good substance. It is not harmful. Slime or ropiness in juices are actually polysaccharides produced by bacteria.

In fruit juices, the common culprits are usually Lactobacillus sp. or Leuconostoc sp.

Bacterial slime/ropiness is common in many foods. If you have an open package of deli meats in your refrigerator, and notice a sticky clear substance after a while, you're seeing bacterial slime. Again, it is harmless, but not appetizing.

Remember, anything that is intentionally put in the juice must pass through a filler head about the width of a dime. If you have slime/ropiness larger than this, it must be a growth.

I hope MonaVie isn't telling their distributors that this is normal.

Frank said: Without seeing what it was I can only guess, probably a residue from the manufacturing process, we are dealing with the byproducts of all natural ingredients, the oily substance and solid matter sometimes present, better known as "the plug" by some though unappetizing is harmless, I was told was actually good for us, can't wait for everybody negitive to pounce on this answer.

OK, I'll pounce first! You’d probably happily chew one of Dallin Larsen’s turds if he told you that it was good for you, and you’d do it with gusto in front of a roomful of tasting party prospects if you thought it might help you recruit one of them into your snicker-and-groan-evoking pyramid-juice-cult. It’s hilarious that we should be expected to believe anything your company says, after all the lies they have told and been caught for. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn’t trust their crap toxic whore juice enough to wash my driveway with it let alone swallow it.

There are so many reasons why this product is NOT "amazing" as one valley girl here stated that to list them all would be cruel and unusual honesty. First off- Testemonials - any scientist or engineer will tell you that given a presentation of anything , be it a service or gadget if they launch immediatly into "testemonials" LOOK OUT because they are not based in fact , real data gleaned from controlled experementation or anything else that can quantify and verify the littany of statments made by these "people" whos lives have been "changed" - that part is partially true in that thier bank account has changed and holds less money then prior to being exposed to this" cat chasing its tale " product marketing ploys - I rather liken it to a monkey copulating with a football. All that aside drinking Orange Juice with a splash of grapseed extract will offer up a higher level of "free radical scavengars" than this axle grease .
Other than free radical scavenging these juice miracles dont offer squat ---excuse me - yes you will be doing some squatting . BUt the worst absolute WORST THING they have the DUMB PEOPLE that do it ...do is to IMMEDIATLE PEDDLE this stuff to your closest inner circle of family and friends - That is a HUGE NO-NO and if you do it you qualify as someone that might be able to figure out how to turn on a light switch without an engineering degree like that chap stated earlier when he had the ephippany that he could actually achieve this without extensive schooling - wow was I proud of him --I think his name was Larry . Again larry - Im holding that brownie Button that my daughter said I could give you. You are on your way to possily becoming ( depending on your dissertation ) an executive sanatation engineer and then you can set up like a lemonaid stand and sell this goop to other folk down there in Mayberry on the weekends . That way when you make pickups in that big truck youll be driving you can count the bottles that get thrown away ! anyhow When a company that has NO PREREQUISITE FOR BEING A SALES person is pretty desperate of just playing a giant numbers game ---which inthis case its the latter.
Then they KNOW fro almost 100% certainty that once you stick your neck out to all your family and friends that reversing your position and quitting is not as easy as it would have been had you not done something that STUPID !! because they are going to revel in your demise as they repeatedly ask you how is your new business going and its tanking so you like and say great , inside you are ready to go ape-fertilizer and therin lies the hook ---so to all potential distributor cap- heads skip that step - trust me - and if you do this - do sell one bottle to anybody go find people dumber than you - m( may be difficult ) and have them do the work ! Thats the way you do this ---you arent seriously considerng working for this company ???? you have to out smart them and thats EASY just find a bunk of 18 year olds that you convince will be millionaires if they do EXACTLT WHAT YOU SAY and have them schlep this stuff all over the place , and run the automotons by cell phone . done

Joe S.

What a friggin idiot.
What you should do is grow a brain. Go back and beg Dallin Larsen to rejoin Mona Vie, LOL!
Dallin totally RAPED the AMWAY tree and many other MLM's out there. He even paid several top people from other MLM's to come over to Mona Vie and bring their downlines with them. How else do you go Hawaiian Blue Diamond in 6 weeks??
This whole thing is rigged from the get go.
Who is the friggin moron talking about being naked in a jungle. Maybe we should run background checks on some of you before letting you into this site, scary!!!!!
Anyway, there are other nutritional beverages that are here now and one of them will totally turn Mona Vie inside out. Mona Vie is a burning building. If you haven't made it to the top by now- you never will. It is all about timing and positioning and you would understand that if you were a business professional. I feel bad for some in Mona Vie who will be hurt by the 'free fall' that is about to happen with Mona Vie but others, such as some of those idiot Black Diamonds that just want to talk about money, will be changing tires at Costco before too long and that will be hilarious.
mona Vie is freaking out right now because they know this other company, who will be advertising exclusively through Facebook, has already gotten many Black Diamonds to join their company. Whay would they do that unless if their money had drastically been reduced? These guys are telling all of you they make X when really they only make Y. It is deceitful and dishonesty to say the least.
Dallin has already been asked to step down from one company and now he can add this to his pitiful resume. Dallin, Henry, Brig, Steve, Gina, what a bunch of big time hypocrites...... Unbelievable and people still defend them. You know why- because they think it will be their turn soon if they kiss ___ on these people.
Wake up, they dont care 2 you know whats about any of you.
You guys have no idea how this game is played.
Do your research before writing idiotic blogs and showing your stupidity!

Jennie,

It sounds like the product has a bacterial growth causing the slimy substance. In fruit juices, the most common microbes would be lactic acid bacteria.

These bacteria can survive and grow in an acid environment (fruit juice) and also, at refrigerated temperatures, though generally, not below 4 degrees C (about 39 degrees F)

I suspect that your refrigerator may be on the warm side (40 to 45 degrees F)

Invest in an inexpensive refrigerator thermometer. Buy one that has a probe that stays inside the refrigerator, but the readout can be monitored on the outside. Bed, Bath and Beyond should have one.

Keep your refrigerator between 36 to 38 degrees F. This should solve the problem. You'll find that your other perishables will also keep longer.

MonaVie does contain preservatives, but they are only minimally effective on acid-tolerant bacteria.

Breezy said: Have you noticed that irv is now best friends with a Blue Diamond. Did we think we'd ever see that. He hates MLM and the Monavie product. Happiness is. Just remember he will hate any product you take up to sell in an mlm model unless the mlm just gives the product away. He prefers companies spending money on garbage ads on TV and radio instead of paying people to people advertising.

What a jacka$$! I commended Larry for his candor. It was one of the only honest and intelligent posts from a distributor to date. You could stand to learn from his example.

Once again, I don’t hate all MLMs. Throwing out this foolish accusation is nothing more than a smokescreen to disguise the fact that your organization is selling an indisputably overpriced and nutritionally-deficient fruit juice as a remedy for diseases, and that the Monavie business “opportunity” (cough) is overwhelmingly likely to result in earnings well below minimum wage. If that sounds like a good deal to you, go for it. Sane people won’t.

Jeanie,

Without seeing what it was I can only guess, probably a residue from the manufacturing process, we are dealing with the byproducts of all natural ingredients, the oily substance and solid matter sometimes present, better known as "the plug" by some though unappetizing is harmless, I was told was actually good for us, can't wait for everybody negitive to pounce on this answer.

At any rate instead of throwing it out, they do have a refund policy that works pretty well. Personally I don't make any of my team go thru that and just buy it back myself if someone orders too much, within reason, or is unhappy in any way.

Jennie, that is the most precious part of Monavie, the essential fatty acids and the seed/fiber pieces. I wish who ever sold you that bottle would have alerted you to that pretty green stuff being very good. Don't throw it away, slurp it up. Yes, the surface of a shot of Monavie has floating green fatty stuff. Yum!!!!! Good Food!

IRV
It's your fault that I lost a quarter of a million dollars. It's your fault that I lost it because you said not to get involved with MLM's. It's your fault when I called the company and they would not let me get in. It's your fault that my income dropped to 15K Gosh I feel so much better, here I thought it was MY FAULT. What a joke [no offense] IRV
***It’s interesting that Monavie is quick to enforce the contractual rules when they have the potential to create competition for the company but they don’t enforce them when distributors break the law by claiming that Monavie is a miracle cure, lie about its ingredients and properties, and grossly misrepresent the earnings potential for distributors. This reveals much about the company's priorities.

YOU said: "when distributors break the law" Do you think he did? You then said:"distributors break the law by claiming that Monavie is a miracle cure" I have never heard a distributor say it's "a miracle cure " ONLY YOU. "I don't remember reading were Monavie lied about it's ingredients and properties. ONLY YOU. And grossly misrepresent the earnings potential for distributors. Monavie didn't, ONLY YOU.

And whose fault is it when you screw up IRV or should we call you IRV/VOGEL call the Queen or the Beefeaters to help you figure it out. Bloody well long overdue I’d say.

Can someone help me? I have two bottles of Monavie that I've kept in my refrigerator. I opened both of them and found a slimy substance inside. I threw them out but I'm worried that it might be harmful in some way. What's causing this?

Larry
blue diamond, 1/2 million dollar a year and you could not even pay yor house? it is hard to believe. what you did with all the money you make? and why your wife wanted another bussiness? 1/2 millon dollar a year was not enough?sorry, but i have problem to believe your st ory.

Do yall not have anything better to do than bash an amazing product. Its just not for some people

I guess all said Dallen did warn everyone up front on the DVD we show at the tastings, "This is not an easy business". I have to ask what in life that is worthwhile really is?

As for me, product arguments not withstanding, I would still use the product weather they had a comp plan or not and can't wait for my 3 cases of Emv to show up.

Have you noticed that irv is now best friends with a Blue Diamond. Did we think we'd ever see that. He hates MLM and the Monavie product. Happiness is. Just remember he will hate any product you take up to sell in an mlm model unless the mlm just gives the product away. He prefers companies spending money on garbage ads on TV and radio instead of paying people to people advertising.

I had a close friend who once travelled with Doc Wallach (Dead Doctors Don't Lie) and when she decided to move to another company he sued her. There are lawyers who specialize in mlm. It drug on and on and he eventually lost. You can't stop someone from moving on. She was willing to start over (she did not pull from his organization). He had to pay her lots of money for that mess.

I'm sure Monavie is very sorry to lose Larry but it happened, he is now gone and actually doing better so what's with all the surprise. He is now free to harvest from Monavie and THAT is why he didn't want to reinstate. Hopefully he won't get sued.

Maybe others have now learned to not harvest from within their organizations unless it is the people they sponsored. Everyone else is off limits.

I also know that compliance has thrown people out for other transgressions, like selling on ebay and making serious claims.

All the best to Larry and Troy, MLM lives on!!

Larry i am sorry that this happened to you and your family and like a few said, no company would put up with cross recruiting, if you ran this company then you wouldnt put up with it either! See you are saying that they are greedy and all this, but you also said

"Henry told us that we had to resign from the other MLM company and show proof that we terminated that account. If we did that he would reinstate us into Mona Vie and give us back pay for any commissions that we missed out on"

Now this doesnt sound very greedy to me, it sounds like they were trying to get one of their top distributors back with both feet in this time and not doing the hokey pokey! I think you should call dalin back and beg for him to let you back in and thank him for even considering it. Good luck to you larry and for the rest of ya'll stop being so frickin negative!

mona vie for life (unless you steal their business)

JOE S.

Larry! sound like you have done this to yourself. Let me show what I mean. If you were down to 4k a month why not simply sponsor more people? (You have the title to promote yourself to prospects) That's what you would have to do in the new MLM company right? You know & we know that you start talking to other peoples people (crossline). You got busted! You want proof. Simply look in the mirror. Be a man. NEXT! If you were making 4k a wk hopefully you were smart enough to live below your means. AND SAVE SOME MONEY OR DOWN GRADE. If you built it once before go build it again, others have done it. You put a winner in the jungle butt naked with a knife come back in a week you will find them with tiger skins on their back and 5 pounds heaver. Put a looser there and you will find a dead human carcass! Stop winning & go get off your carA$$ & go get it for those 4 kids!

Breezy "Larry lost his distributorship for breaking the rules and then refusing to comply by resigning from the other MLM. How is that Monavie's fault? Irv's response is that Monavie is at fault. No company worth their salt will allow cross recruiting. Working in the MLM offers many opportunities with people one never knew before. It is poison to do it."

I said nothing of the kind -- but I wasn't the least bit surprised to hear about how Larsen and Marsh put the screws to Larry. The detail that I found surprising and noteworthy is that Larry was one of the top 150 distributors in the organization and yet his income sunk down to $52 K per year. We always knew from the IDS that the biz opportunity was pathetic for the 90% at the lower echelons, but I had no idea that it was so bad even for the distributors near the top. What a joke (no offense Larry).

It’s interesting that Monavie is quick to enforce the contractual rules when they have the potential to create competition for the company but they don’t enfore them when distributors break the law by claiming that Monavie is a miracle cure, lie about its ingredients and properties, and grossly misrepresent the earnings potential for distributors. This reveals much about the company's priorities.

Breezy said "Obviously someone reported Larry. Don't the non-drinkers on this list have REPORT MANIA? Tattle Telling is in their nature. I'm sure they are enjoying this at Larry's expense so Larry don't get too cozy with the cudos from irv. They are not genuine. He would have taken you down too. It's part of his neurosis."

Oh, I see. So Larsen and Marsh screwed Larry in the heart and that’s somehow my fault? Dunce! I am doing nothing at “Larry’s expense”. The greedy good ‘ol boys who run your beloved BS snake oil pyramid F-ed him over.

By the way Troy, great freakin’ post. Things are finally getting interesting here. I really appreciate seeing distributors speak with candor and intelligence. Bloody well long overdue I’d say. The rest you knot-headed distributors could learn a few things from people like Troy and Larry.

Frank it is not the first time I've heard it. I know about a Ruby who was thrown out for cross recruiting. His wife was NOT happy about it. You gamble what you can afford to lose. We are only allowed to influence the people we sponsor. No one else.

You know someone that someone else brought into the business and then you distract them with another mlm. It's bad karma.

From what Larry said he was given a chance to reinstate. He chose not to.

I'll say again that I like binary, it allows you to build deep and keep groups of people together rather than creating competition. Unnecessary competition can kill the spirit of mlm.

Maybe Troy (not his real name) got into the new mlm with Larry. I'm curious, what is this mlm that was so attractive? Is it a competing product?

I wish I could buy Monavie without all these emotional hassels but then again most people would have never found out about it either. That would be the price. I like the relationships it builds.

Once and for all I will tell you losers. I was never shown any 'proof' that I violated any of MV policies and procedures. What is this- guilty until proven innocent?
I appreciate some of the kind words out there. Again, not trying to whine or cry 'sour grapes'. I just really get concerned for distributors out there who could fall into the same trap that I fell into. That trap was believing that MV actually gave a shit about me and all that I had done for their company and also the biggest trap of them all which is to follow the cult of R3Global. I am going to capitalize this last statement so that those of you that can't read get it- MONA VIE GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND GET MY DISTRIBUTORSHIP REINSTATED WITH FULL BACK PAY!
THE CONDITION WAS THAT I HAD TO RESIGN FROM THE OTHER MLM COMPANY AND SHOW THEM PROOF THAT I DID THAT.
I CHOSE TO REJECT THAT OFFER BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A STUPID CHOICE TO GO BACK INTO A 'BURNING BUILDING' WHERE MY INCOME WENT FROM 4K PER WEEK TO 1K PER WEEK AND THE DROPOUT RATE IS OVER 70%!!! PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD $40 BOTTLES OF JUICE IN THIS ECONOMY.
DOES IT HURT US IN THE SHORT RUN, YES, ABSOLUTELY, BUT I AM NOT IN LIFE FOR THE SHORT RUN AND I ALSO REFUSE TO ASSOCIATE WITH MONEY HUNGRY PEOPLE THAT WOULD SELL THEIR OWN MOTHER TO MAKE A BUCK!!!
DO NOT WORRY ABOUT US! WE ARE VERY STRONG PEOPLE AND HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW US AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT MV DID TO US.
BY THE WAY, I AM ALREADY MAKING MORE MONEY IN MY NEW VENTURE THAN I WAS IN MV SO I GUESS I MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE!!!!

BOTTOM LINE- LIFE GIVES TO THE GIVER AND TAKES FROM THE TAKER!
SAY WHAT YOU WILL- YOU DO NOT KNOW ME AND WHAT I AM ALL ABOUT BUT THEN AGAIN I REALLY DONT CARE BECAUSE- WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE EXCEPT TYPE BLOGS ON A WEBSITE!!!!

BY THE WAY, I ONLY TRUST MY CLOSE FRIENDS, NO ONE ELSE! PEOPLE ARE SNAKES AND THEY WILL WARM UP TO YOU AND WHEN YOU ARE NOT LOOKING- BITE YOU.....

Larry,

My condolences and I hope you are successful in the appeals process and in your future endeavors, sounds like they thru you under the bus to avoid potential litigation. I can understand it from a corporate perspective though, don’t like it and think it is an unfair paradox since pretty much all in MLM pool from their circle of friends who are in other MLM’s and just about all the companies have a non cross sponsorship clause in their Terms & Condition’s, this is the first time I have heard on anybody actually enforcing it.

Again best of luck

I know Larry and I have worked with him in MonaVie for several years in MonaVie.

First off, I am surprised he posted his story here using his real name, that takes balls as I would expect repercussions from the MonaVie gestapo compliance department.

No one reading this has any idea of how deep the greed of Brig, Steve, Harry and Dallin goes. No idea. They want it ALL, they want to give the minions NOTHING!

MonaVie cost just over $3 to produce, if it was in the supermarket it would be a $10 item. They sell it for $36.50, Mark, you want to talk about greed little man, there it is.

Oh, speaking of greed, the whole MORE Project scam...guess how much, or little I should say, these greedy SOBs give to the MORE Project.

Maybe 3 mill a year, 4 mill a year?

Not even close. I called MonaVie corporate, I was told it is barely $200,000.00, and guess where that comes from?

Not Dallin, Brig's or Steve's pocket, I can guarantee you that.

Anyone who thinks the MV comp plan is good, has no clue about MLM. Anyone who has internet access do your homework and you will find the binary is the worst comp. plan in the industry. So to you dorks out there saying what a great financial opportunity it is, your an idiot, because those of us in the know, "know"..

Secondly, yes, he is the one who posted the story and yes, it is all true.

Thirdly, I am surprised he posted it here, as most people here do nothing but blow hot air and are all armchair quarterbacks who have never succeeded in MonaVie or any other MLM or life for that matter...but I digress.

That said, I would like to address Marks rude little post where he called Larry "greedy".

Mark, Larry is not an idiot. He did NOT leave MV when he was making 4k a week. Also, he was not LOOKING for another opportunity, he received a call from a friend who asked him to look at another opportunity.

Now, if MonaVie was treating Larry like they should of, he would have been happy in MonaVie and would not have been interested in any other opportunity.

But the fact remains, his pay went from 4k+ to 1k+, IT WAS HIS REDUCTION IN PAY THAT LED HIM OUT OF MONAVIE, NOT GREED.

HE WAS NOT LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN HE WAS MAKING 4K A WEEK, HE WAS BUILDING HIS MONAVIE BUSINESS.

HE WAS NOT LOOKING UNTIL HIS PAY EVAPORATED BECAUSE OF A BAD ECONOMY AND MONAVIE GREED.

HE DIDN"T START LOOKING UNTIL AFTER HIS PAY DROPPED TO NOTHING,

Also, someone stated he is responsible for his business and not his upline.

While that is true to an extent, however, when you call your upline for help, leadership and guidance and they don't call you back, then whose fault is it? Especially when all they preach is that they are there for you.

Larry got no support from his brain dead Blue Diamond upline Donny M, who by the way just happens to be Steve M's brother in law.

So guess who got all the help from Steve M?

Larry ?

No, brain dead Donny the deer farmer from GA because he is Steve M's brother in law.

Off topic here, but interesting...Brain dead Donny M is not supposed to make money claims, but states at every MonaVie meeting he attends, "I can't tell you how much I make, but if a carpenter makes 1k a week, I make 10 times what a carpenter makes".

Well...thanks brain dead Donny, but that sound like a money claim to me!

Of course his proud brother in law Steve M speaks just about the same..."I can't tell you MonaVie gives you a Mercedes, all I can tell you is there is one parked outside and the keys are in my pocket".

Hmmm, someone should report these jerks to the FTC.

Anyway, If you people here want to go out and try and build a MonaVie biz, certainly don;t let anyone here stop you. But understand the magnitude of GREED at the top.

Larry 's pay did not decrease because of anything he did. It decreased primarily because of a bad economy and because he did not get the help from Steve M, Donny M, or anyone else in his upline.

He called, he asked, he was told by Steve M that Steve would help him turn his business around, Steve was going to help him along with brain dead Donny. Guess what, the help never came.

Larry is a good guy, everyone here should be GRATEFUL he shared his story here.

Mark said: Now I ask Larry. What in the world compelled you to break ANY terms and conditions OR even BOTHER to join another MLM when you were earning an average of $ 4000.00 per week? I'll tell you the answer....Your GREEDINESS !!! You BLEW $ 208,000 per year for GREED !!! And the question for all the NAYSAYERS here has been answered.....

Wow what a jerkoff comment. The Church of Monavie glorifies and idolizes greed; it’s the only thing that fuels this business. The cover of every issue of Monavie on the Move is a testament to greed. Greed is featured center stage at every Monavie regional meeting.

The crux of the recruitment pitch is that anyone can replicate the success of the people at the top of the pyramid. New distributors are encouraged to believe that they can be the next Brig Hart. They certainly don’t recruit distributors by telling them to aim for the middle; they tell them to reach for the top.

By his account, Larry wasn’t greedy; his revenue had dropped by about 80% -- down to 52K per year. It’s not easy supporting a family of 4 on 52K per year (before taxes, business expenses, healthcare, juice costs, etc.), so his attempt to supplement his declining income seems to be more born out of necessity than greed.

Here's a guy who was in MonaVie for just THREE YEARS AND WAS EARNING AN AVERAGE OF $4000.00 PER WEEK !!! So tell me NOW, that it can't be done. Just don't get GREEDY!!

We already knew that a select few in the organization made decent money from Monavie. The IDS shows that some do, but more importantly it also shows that an overwhelming majority make next to nothing. Larry, a Blue Diamond, has worked the business for years and reached a rank that few can ever hope to achieve (there are only 144 distributors out of more than 80,000 in the organization that have achieved a rank as high or higher than Larry’s) and yet his income had dropped to $1,000 per month, apparently through no fault of his own. So even at the top ranks of Monavie, a distributor is lucky to make more than poverty level wages and they can lose their business at the whim of Monavie’s crooked executives only to be left with nothing.

When I ordered Monavie E yesterday it was the first time I've ever found the website slow. Everyone else must have been doing the same thing. I see today that because of the demand Monavie is limiting the sales of Monavie E to 1 or 3 cases, no more 6 or 12 case orders are being taken. Those options have now been removed from the website. They want to make sure everyone gets the opportunity to buy it now. Sounds like a high level problem!

At least I have 3 cases coming. I have lots of people anxious to try it. I can hear the cans opening now........

Larry lost his distributorship for breaking the rules and then refusing to comply by resigning from the other MLM. How is that Monavie's fault? Irv's response is that Monavie is at fault. No company worth their salt will allow cross recruiting. Working in the MLM offers many opportunities with people one never knew before. It is poison to do it.

And now with the new product there could be new sales. It is very unfortunate that Larry gave it up for the sake of the other company.

copycopy Irv?

Obviously someone reported Larry. Don't the non-drinkers on this list have REPORT MANIA? Tattle Telling is in their nature. I'm sure they are enjoying this at Larry's expense so Larry don't get too cozy with the cudos from irv. They are not genuine. He would have taken you down too. It's part of his neurosis.

It is an interesting discussion and I hope others have learned from it.

Wow! Man oh man Larry, you sure turned this discussion on its ear. After all the infantile drivel we’ve had to endure, we finally here from a distributor who can speak the truth loudly and clearly. Thank you for your candor.

Monavie is screwed and it’s only going to get worse from here.

To all you Mona Vie non-believers out there listen up. I know there are a lot of distributers out there making wild claims how MV is curing all kinds of diseases and ailments. Last week I was involved in a very bad accident with a chain saw and I had accidentally severed my foot off just above the ankle. Now, I am not one to go to a doctor so I opted to remedy the situation myself. I quickly applied a tourniquet, grabbed some Duct tape and re-attached my own foot with the tape. I then contacted my MV distributer and ourchased a case of the product. He suggested I soak my foot in the product once a day while drinking 2oz. in the morning and 1oz. at night. after just three weeks the foot seems to have taken. My foot is, however, black as charcoal, has no feeling and begining to smell bad. My MV distributer says that if I drink more MV the color should come back in about 9 months and I should be able to remove the Duct tape then.

Thanks Mona Vie
Rob

I was a distributor for Monavie. I QUIT and the reason was the treatment of their people. Many people work very hard.Any business that has ever been successful required someones efforts, HARD WORK!!!!! Larry Hislop devoted many many hours of hard work and numerous months traveling to support his family utilizing the Monavie system. He was successful and profited accordingly. The lack of ethics by Dallin Larsen, and Henry(if in doubt ask his girlfriend)and the committee have shown their true colors. Their concerns are for themselves and the almighty DOLLAR. I don't mind people making money, nor do I mind anyone dedicating themselves to a cause. I do mind anyone, cheating, stealing, making false statements, for money and fame. Dallin and Henry... If the shoe fits wear it!!!!

Larry I'm sorry this happened to you but you didn't say that you didn't try to recruit. That would be a bad mistake. About Henry calling you, he is like the vice principal. The VP always did the disciplining. I think Monavie will miss having you on their team. But they will kick people out for cross recruiting for other businesses. It's an old rule. I feel bad for your family. And you have worked so hard. I hope the other business works out for you.

Monavie needs to get more realistic about the possibilities. Most of us are realistic. I don't need a fancy car, just a nice healthy life. I placed my order for Monavie E today. Will report on it later.

Good grief Joe S., what the heaven has Obama got to do with this.

Well lary hickucp diarrea journal , you must love the flavour of your own bs so much that you just cant stop writing inane nonsense that nobody would ever read since its longer than ann coulters adams apple. But yes BEFORE I got into REAL SALES I was well aware that a COLLEGE DEGREE - you can look up the definition of those two words- was a needed prerequisite due to the fact that any company worth its seed hires EDUCATED people that have the ability to finish what they start and also have the ability to grasp and communicate complex knowledge about a companys product or service and when you hire nothing but yahoos with only a small buy in requiring money how consistent do you think that companys information about thier product will be? I would say you will end up getting every possible answer to any given question depending on which schill you ask . Its such a pathetic non-screening process I wonder how they keep track of who says what to whom ? Its Laughable when you see how REAL sales organizations are run that keep track of clients and thier exact needs and people all are on the same page with information....its actually got a name ...the REAL WORLD OF SALES ! This slop is for trailer park motel-hotel futurethon latenight crack heads that believe everything they see on tv. rotflmao. Anyhow yes sales is great but it also requires hard work and to be educated and I dont yank down over 250K /yr selling mlm juice I do it by working for a reputable company that has designed products that people NEED and NEED to understand that are an integral part of the advancment of humanity , not pitch man garbage ---" but if you act now ..we will throw in a set of slightly used size 57 mens underwear from somewhere in Iraq - but you must call NOW!

Strange, I got to where I am in MonaVie all on my own, didn't wait for anyone to coddle me or tell me how to run my business. If you're a business person then your a business person, if you're not and not disiplined with your life then you really need to keep punching in and let someone lay out your day because you will not make it in MLM, in a franchise, busking in the subway, or selling Ginsu knives from the tailgate of your stationwagon. Regardless of what you do, you have to be a self starter. Your upline can't make you successful, they can only give you their methods and you have to implement them. Brig or Orrin or Darrell or Scott or the dudes in Japan or anyone that is making a living in MonaVie is not doing so because of some secret wink and nod old boys club!! They worked their bloomin' butts off, just look at their schedules, they live in every city in the US and Canada every week.

Not sure what happened to Larry Hislop to make him lose 50% of his income but that has nothing to do with anyone but him, not his upline, his downline is whatever line. When I meet a potential business partner, he or she doesn't know anything about my sponsor, they aonly know about me and what I've acheived in the last 15 months of my business.

My business has gone up way more than 50% in the last 12 months, and I definatlly don't depend on my upline, I'm just good at what I do, which is be an independent business person. So if your business is not doing so swell, then figure out what you're doing wrong, because everyone is singing from the same song book regardless of their rank, we all sell the same product for the same price, end of story.

Of course I hope you all realize that my post about Larry and his greed, is ONLY VALID if his story is true, and if indeed that was actually HIM who posted the story.
For all I know, or anyone else knows, for that matter, it's all another BS story made up by another moron loser on this site, like JJT, Irv, Smelly Turd, ETC, ETC, ETC.

mark

The thing that caught my eye big time about Larry's post is this particular part.
And I quote;
"I SPONSORED 60 PEOPLE INTO MONA VIE, DID 3-4 TASTING PARTIES EVERY WEEK, ATTENDED ALL THE BIG EVENTS, HAD OVER 10000 DISTRIBUTORS IN MY DOWNLINE, CARRIED OTHER BLUE DIAMONDS ON MY BACK AND, STILL, MY INCOME WENT FROM 4K WEEKLY TO 1K WEEKLY IN 12 MONTHS."

Now I ask Larry. What in the world compelled you to break ANY terms and conditions OR even BOTHER to join another MLM when you were earning an average of $ 4000.00 per week?
I'll tell you the answer....Your GREEDINESS !!!
You BLEW $ 208,000 per year for GREED !!!

And the question for all the NAYSAYERS here has been answered.....
Here's a guy who was in MonaVie for just THREE YEARS AND WAS EARNING AN AVERAGE OF
$ 4000.00 PER WEEK !!!

So tell me NOW, that it can't be done.
Just don't get GREEDY !!

mark

I want to share my Mona Vie story.

I was a Blue Diamond in Mona Vie up until May 14, 2009 when Mona Vie compliance terminated my distributorship. They claim that I violated their policies and procedures by recruiting Mona Vie distributors outside my personal enrollment tree leg into another MLM company. They never gave me any proof to support that claim! They notified me on Thursday, May 14th at 1PM EST that my account was terminated. That I would not be getting my weekly commissions on Friday, May 15th. Mona Vie was the sole source of income for my family of 6 which includes 4 children ages 10 to 18!

Apparently, they have a committee or board that decides the fate of Mona Vie distributors. They call it the DCAC (Distributor Conduct Appeals Committee). I was never given the chance to defend myself or be present while this 'board' ruled on my case.

Remember this- I traveled the entire US and Canada for over 3 years. Spent thousands of dollars building my MV business and also helping others build their MV businesses too. I had over 10000 distributors in my downline. Countless time away from my family to do home tasting parties, open meetings, attend MV national conventions as well as Brig Hart R3Global reunions. Those are expensive events to attend!

I called Dallin Larsen on his cell phone to inform him of what had happened and, after leaving 4 messages, he finally returned my call. He was vaguely familiar with my situation but he asked me to call him on Monday, May 18, and that he would get Elena from MV compliance on the line and the 3 of us would discuss my case. I called him promptly at 4PM EST as he requested and it rang 1 time and he sent me to his voicemail. 30 minutes later I got a call from Henry and Elena . Henry said that Dallin had asked him to handle this situation. Honestly, I lost all respect for Dallin at that point because he wasn't man enough to do what he said he would do. Instead he passed me off to Henry .
Henry gave me an interesting choice to make. My wife Bridgette had joined another MLM that was totally not in competition with Mona Vie in any way. She did this to help provide for our family in these tough economic times. Maybe make an extra 200-300 each week to help supplement our Mona Vie income which had dropped by over 50% in the past 12 months alone. Sound familiar?
Henry told us that we had to resign from the other MLM company and show proof that we terminated that account. If we did that he would reinstate us into Mona Vie and give us back pay for any commissions that we missed out on. TO ME THAT SOUNDS LIKE BLACKMAIL.
I asked Henry to put his request in writing and he declined. He said he told us the terms and that he would not put it in writing for us.
Here is my question- if you are so honest and truly want to do the right thing then why wouldn't you put your terms in writing?
Anyway, we have not received any weekly commissions since May 14th.
MONA VIE IS STEALING FROM US BY NOT PAYING US WHAT WE EARNED BY WORKING TIRELESSLY FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS!

IS THIS THE WAY MONA VIE TREATS THEIR BLUE DIAMOND EXECUTIVES?

IF YOU ARE A MONA VIE DISTRIBUTOR PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL!
DALLIN STANDS ON STAGE AND TALKS ABOUT HOW MONA VIE IS ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY AND HOW DISTRIBUTORS ARE WELCOMED TO LEAVE AND PURSUE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT THEY WILL BE WELCOMED BACK IF THEY CHOOSE TO RETURN TO MONA VIE.
THAT IS A LIE!
WHAT HE IS REALLY SAYING IS THAT HE WELCOMES THOUSANDS OF AMWAY DISTRIBUTORS AND OTHER MLM DISTRIBUTORS INTO MONA VIE BUT DON'T EVER TRY TO LEAVE BECAUSE WE WILL SHUT YOU DOWN!

HERE IS THE TRUTH- MONA VIE DOESN'T OWN ANYONE. THEY DON'T PAY YOU A 401K. THEY DON'T PAY YOU A SALARY. THEY DON'T GIVE YOU MEDICAL AND DENTAL BENEFITS. YOU ARE AN INDEPENDENT DISTRIBUTOR WHO WORKS FOR YOURSELF. WHY SHOULD THEY BE ABLE TO STOP YOU FROM JOINING ANOTHER MLM AND SUPPLEMENTING YOUR INCOME FOR YOU & YOUR FAMILY? ESPECIALLY IF THAT MLM DOES NOT COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH MONA VIE WHICH THIS PARTICULAR ONE DID NOT DO.
IT IS WRONG WHAT MONA VIE HAS DONE TO US AND OUR HOPE AND PRAYER IS THAT THEY WILL NOT DO THIS TO ANOTHER FAMILY BECAUSE THEY HAVE HURT US FINANCIALLY TO THE POINT WHERE WE WERE ALMOST LEFT HOMELESS IF NOT FOR SOME FAMILY MEMBERS WHO STEPPED UP TO HELP US.
YES, MONA VIE HAS GOOD PRODUCTS AND WE HAVE NEVER DISPUTED THAT FACT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT GREED AND POWER HAVE TAKEN OVER NOT ONLY FOR DALLIN BUT ALSO FOR MANY OF THE TOP DISTRIBUTORS IN MONA VIE AND THEY ARE DRIVING THIS COMPANY INTO THE GROUND. THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S YOUR TURN, YOUR NEXT, YOU WILL BE THE NEXT STEVE & GINA AND WALK ACROSS THE STAGE AND COLLECT YOUR BIG BONUS CHECK! OF COURSE, EVERYONE WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN TO THEM.
THE TRUTH IS THIS- IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. HOW DO I KNOW THIS? I SPONSORED 60 PEOPLE INTO MONA VIE, DID 3-4 TASTING PARTIES EVERY WEEK, ATTENDED ALL THE BIG EVENTS, HAD OVER 10000 DISTRIBUTORS IN MY DOWNLINE, CARRIED OTHER BLUE DIAMONDS ON MY BACK AND, STILL, MY INCOME WENT FROM 4K WEEKLY TO 1K WEEKLY IN 12 MONTHS.
THE MONA VIE RIDE IS ALMOST OVER. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST FOR AWHILE BUT, UNLESS YOU ARE HAND PICKED TO BE PUSHED TO THE TOP BY MONA VIE, YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SEE THE TOP RANKS IN THIS COMPANY. I AM SORRY BUT IT IS THE COLD HARD TRUTH.
I ALWAYS WISH EVERYONE THE BEST OF LUCK BUT I AM DEEPLY TROUBLED BY WHAT MONA VIE IS DOING AND HOW THEIR LEADERS ARE REPRESENTING THIS COMPANY. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. BUY THESE TOOLS AND YOU WILL SUCCEED. TOOLS, TOOLS, TOOLS! WHERE HAVE WE SEEN THAT BEFORE? OH THAT'S RIGHT- AMWAY!

Hello im back yaayyyy!! i couldnt help but read that you said you need a college degree to be a real salesperson its funny you probably found that out when you didnt get the job! lol! You all are saying that we (distributors) are the same well if you think about it we arnt selling anything, we are sharing an opportunity and obviously everyone on this site was looking up monavie so you all must be interested! Just so you know all businesses are the same and people at the top make more money then you, have you ever heard of the food chain? i bet the ones always getting eaten are complaining just like you all! DONT WORRY MONAVIE DISTRIBUTORS THE ONES BEING NEGATIVE PROBABLY THINK OBAMA IS JUST GOING TO GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY EVER WANTED AND DREAM AND THEY WILL NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN!
I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU GRUMPS!!

JOE S.

Anybody that boasts that they bought a "house" or other material possesions with the profits from this stuff must have built a very nice cardboard hut that I would love to see . Please post photos ! Can cardboard suppport a second story ? OH yeah also big news - theres a guy posting here named "frank" and he does NOT need an electrical engineering degree to flip a light switch !!!! Dang frank you should have just asked somebody instead of doing all that research just to find out what you didnt need to get a light to turn on . Oh well at least you made it over one of lifes major hurdlles !
Good job . Bravo

The stuff tastes great for a supplement.The Product should sale it self. The only problem i have is the Salesman was more concerned about getting me a job rather than selling me the product. It reminds me a little bit like AVON, Lingerie(FUN)partys an Candle partys. One of my friends tryed selling all of that and ended up putting out more money than she made.Between Gas,Time,buy samples or peoples lack of interest. It was more of a pain she had to stick to just to break even. Not everyone is a salesman.

hey all these people who are trying to diss mona vie are most likely those people who are nerds or have gotten ripped off by someone because they were to retarded to notice the scam part now they have to diss a product because it is actually making people money but if any of you who are dissing the product ever need a job I have got a pretty big yard o yeah i forgot i bought my big ass house with the money I made from mona vie

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Can't help but jump in on this one, been using the product since Jan 2007, think it works great for me and probably will for you too. Do I have any formal degree in health sciences, nope, no more than I have a degree in electrical engineering to be able to use a light switch; it just works, pretty much every time. So no hyped up health claims, silly arguments, or nut job promo on my watch, if they don’t get it on the sites Mona Vie and Brig Hart have, they won’t get it from me. Also Mona Vie does not contain Viagra, however we have a race car now and everybody smiles allot, just kidding, I put that in to snap the guys in the compliance department who probably monitor the blogs.

Mona Vie’s MLM, it works about the same as all the rest of the binaries do with several notable exceptions, no sign on fee for 2009 just get on board and pay the same price I do, (Remember to use 248969 when you hit the enroll now button on the Mona Vie or Brig Hart home page), even when they had one it was $39 not the several hundred dollars most MLM’s charge. Your points never go away as long as you are using the product as directed, if you are not interested in the MLM side, your points don’t matter anyway. Misinformed people doing crazy things, sure we got them, after all everyone is human and opinions and the way people see the world varies, guess what, that is what makes us human. The majority of the great people on board do it right way. No false expectations, no empty promises, no having folks order a bunch of product they don't need, it’s against company policy anyway, and most importantly not bugging folks if they don’t want to be bugged. You get one call or e-mail from me to try to figure out how I can help you so I take a non response as you do not want to be helped and are happy being a non hassled wholesale customer, my contact information is in my personals back office anyway and I respond to all when they are ready to go and will do whatever it takes to get them there. What is my rank and how much do I make, don’t ask, it’s not about me, it’s about you, where you want to go with this and how I can help you to get there, see the Mona Vie Income Disclosure Statement, I’m on it, always thought that was a pretty rude question anyway.

Face fact's around 90% of the folks on board are wholesale customers, ref Mona Vie's IDS, which means they do not want to do MLM in the first place, so I don't force them or even suggest for them to get a bunch of e-mail and promo junk they don't want or need, if they want to be in the 10% or so who are ready for MLM and have the dream and drive to be free, happy to teach it the right way, simply put if it's not in the MAP, don't do it, if it is in the MAP go for it and hit a major function for a great time and learning the business from the best in MLM.

At any rate that's my spin on it.

Its so damned AMUSING that the people here that just love this stuff ( because they sell it ) call anybody else that comes up with objections about the marketing methods, pricing , information inconsistency, product efficacy etc. are branded "HATERS" . The reason I find it amusing is that very few of these people ever actually address the issues brought up by the "HATERS" ,instead they mount a personal attack making accusations about a persons personal habits , lifestyle etc. and other things that they could have now way of knowing. So what this boils down to is that these gutless followers that peddle this stuff dont have any rebuttal to the problems that others have with the stuff and if they did then they might get those "HATERS" to come to the other side , but instead you act like George Bush and insult other people and inflame the situation instead of calmly rebutting the issues and de-personalizing them and making progress- this is the sign of a WEAK SALESPERSON that does not know thier product , nor how to deal with objections about thier product and its surrounding methods of selling , instead they just throw fits of rage and make more enemies of people that were never ones before --therin lies the one BIG problem I have with this structure that NOBODY here has EVER DARED ANSWER and that is: Why would you want to work for a company that has as its ONLY PREREQUISITE as a salesperson your ability to give money to somebody in your potential upline . Thats it ? How pathetic -- Go to Glaxo-Smith-Kline and try to sell thier Pharmaseuticals - not a chance you need a COLLEGE DEGREE. #2 Why do I need to try to force my inner circle of Family and Friends to Buy this stuff before anybody else?? So that there is some profit before I quit ? Or so That I alienate all the people that I hold dear ? To practice on them ...please ....its simple ..to lock you into doing this because if you back out after doing that they will never believe you again. Thats Why !

Hey all, Just to let you know, I found out where Mon A Vie was purchasing their best Acai berry juice from. Its a company called Sambazon.
Funny enough, I saw this product at my local grocery store and came home and did a little bit of research, and found that the Sambazon product was a VERY well respected product and that they actually list the amount of Acai content in their product. I did purchase it and the taste is extraordinary. And, for the cost of about $8 bucks, Im gonna stay with it....I have been drinking about 4 ounces a day for about a month and I feel even better than I did before. Check it out and do your own research, Try their product, and judge it for yourself.... U might not become a millionaire by useing their product, but I bet you didnt become a millionaire drinking and selling "Mon A Vie" either.....Thanks for reading this

Monavie has made me RICH!!! Financial freedom!!! Just a little effort and you can be there yourself!! Thanks!!

Tina

well, i know what goes on at the meetings. i have heard the "toast" ritual talked about. and i know the kind of people who attend. and so on. i have not seen any of the "sane" people yet, but perhaps it's just that particular group. unless you're into statistics. and the yet again old argument rears up about "every business is an mlm or pyramid business". ahh, no. no their not. the owners of companies (other than) are not out soliciting for me to come work for them. and i don't have to invest anything other than my time, and get paid. sure, there are headhunters for certain corps/business but many do not operate in exactly the same way. so i'm not sure i buy that whole it's all a pyramid argument. i may not want to get to the top anyway. in your last moments, what is your claim to fame going to be? personally, it sure wouldn't be what i made financially, or sold, or ripped people off for, etc.
yeah you can do what you want, whatever, it's up to you, but no matter which way anyone wants to spin it, fruit juice whether acai or other is not a cure-all and worth that much money. the only thing that will prove anything like that are some gold standard double blind studies by independent researchers over a long term, and that won't happen in all likelihood. sure, if it makes you feel good, drink it, buy it, no big deal. honesty is one big thing missing, and logic.
i have rarely seen that in any mlm, and yes, it's missing in alot of other "regular" business also.

Can't help but jump in on this one, been using the products since Jan 2007, think it works great for me and probably will for you too. No hype health claims, silly arguments, or nut job promo on my watch.

MLM, works about the same as all the rest of with several notable exceptions, no sign on fee for 2009 just get on board and pay the same price I do, (Just use 248969, by the way, on the enroll now button on the Mona Vie home page), even when they had one it was $39 not several hundred. Misinformed people doing crazy things, sure we got them, after all everyone is human and opinions and the way people see the world varies. However the majority of the great people on board do it right way. No false expectations, no empty promises, no having folks order a bunch of product they don't need.

Face fact's around 90% of the folks on board are wholesale customers, ref Mona Vie's IDS, which means they do not want to do MLM in the first place, so I don't force them of even suggest for them to get a bunch of e-mail and promo junk they don't want or need, if they want to be in the 10% or so who are ready for MLM, happy to teach it the right way, simply put if it's not in the MAP, don't do it, if it is in the MAP go for it and hit a major function for great time and learning the business from the best in MLM.

At any rate that's my spin on it.

Everyone is right in their own mind so just do what makes you happy! What if this really does work for some people? It is just really sad to see that some people would try so hard to knock something that you dont have a clue about and ruin other peoples dreams! ITS ONLY A 4 YEAR OLD COMPANY PEOPLE AND OVER 40 PEOPLE ARE MILLIONARES BECAUSE OF IT! Of course not everyone is going to make it to the top because not everyone i cut out to work hard for themselfs! See this business is just like any other business you have to invest alot of time and money into it....success isnt obtained over night if it was then everyone would be rich! The people on here that are saying this is a joke really dont understand the concept and need to step back and look at life in general! You go to college for 4 years and get out and cant even get a job doing what you went to school for! You need to realize that every single business is a pyramid and you will never get to the top even if you work hard your whole life and will still only make enough money to pay your bills! See what you guys arnt thinking about is that we all are still working our full time jobs and doing monavie on the side part time as their fortune! See who cares how long it takes to make it to the top but at least we are doing something to invest in our future ulike you people siting on your couch watching american idol playing scratch offs and knocking us who are doing something with our life! So dont hate, congragulate! Haters only make us stronger so thank you for keeping us going! Bye now im going to make some money PART TIME! LOL HAHA

MONAVIE FOR LIFE
JOE S.

i should take back the comment about *stupid diamond*. that's unfair, some i'm sure are not. the people who make them diamonds are the gullible, sad as that is. mlm'ers are among the most annoying people on the planet flogging the same old tired crap. it's more like fundamentalist selling. everyone else has to be wrong, only they have the best and right product. how likely is that? unlikely for the most part. it is a typical pattern to read here the slamming, the typical responses, the typical monavie people posting how wonderful it is, and so on ad nauseum. no miracle ingredient, supplement, drink, powder, mix or whatever is going to help you if your diet sucks, and you are a slug on a couch, smoke, and drink alcohol. it can appear that something is helping you feel amazing if you were already deficient in certain nutritive factors. classic example is ZMA formulas. the world would be a slightly more tolerable place if mlm'ers would just go away. unfortunately, that likely won't happen anytime soon. rah rah rah.

www.monavie-cannondale.com/

Team Monavie, they are drinking Monavie E already.

Neurotic Irv has run out of things to write about. He doesn't like my copycopy. yawn......

He compares Monavie to Goji and Limu and Noni and expects to be taken serious? Neurotic Irv knows NOTHING about Monavie. Somehow he thinks I was talking about MLM. He KEEPS getting it wrong.

Monavie was the first and BEST of the acai blends and a lot of care went into the choice of fruits. I hope he enjoys his slam bam juice drinks. They will never catch up to Monavie. And Irv will forever be a coward.

Smelly just can't get away from himself, isn't that right purplepeopleeater? You and neurotic irv make fine team mates.

The email has gone out, we can order Monavie E on Saturday. I'll toast all y'all when I crack open my first MV-E. I'm looking forward to another well considered product.

The Weekly Farm Report
ORAC SCORE:
MonaVie: 22.81 umoles/ml
Unsweetened Dry Cocoa Powder:
809.33 umoles/gm

TOTAL PHENOLICS (Combined plant-based antioxidants):
MonaVie: 1.48 mg/ml
Cocoa Powder: 52.40 mg/gm

How does this measure up in terms of daily servings?

4 oz. of MonaVie will give you 175 mg. of total phenolics.

1 cup of hot chocolate using 7 gms (1 tablespoon) of unsweetened cocoa powder will give you 367 mg. of total phenolics.

MonaVie data from AIBMR Study (sponsored by MonaVie)
Unsweetened cocoa data from USDA ORAC Table of Selected Foods (2007)

Ms. Juliana James-Thomas

Well some of what you wrote was facts.

I don't remember saying that you have a vendetta against sales people. I think I said you were against people selling Monavie.

What I meant about the "income discloser" was the company who you work for doesn't have to show what people in the company make like MLM's. What are the odds of the janitor becoming Executive Vice President of Cutex ? 90%?

Here are some of the questions that I asked: Is not MonaVie a MLM? Does it not sell a real product? Does it not sell their product to members of the general public, without requiring these consumers to pay anything extra or to join the MLM? Does it not pay commissions to a long string of distributors, but these commission are paid for real retail sales, not for new recruits? I got no answer from you.

***MonaVie has less nutrition and fewer antioxidants than a glass of common grape juice or a single apple. See here's a problem I have with this sentence. Every time this is brought up, someone "claims" to be a scientist, but never show that they are. And yet we are suppose to believe them. I'm sorry I don't.

Monavie says there are 19 fruits in their juice. Maybe they do,maybe not. Let just say there is. One is ten times that of grape juice. And the next one is not as much, and the next, and the next an etc. So something is not right with what you say. If the bottle is all grape juice then it would have the nutrition and the antioxidants of a glass of grape juice and since there's no water added something's not right here. And I don't think it's the company.

As for the product Monavie I showed that Monavie is in the same price range as other MLM's Noni Juice 32 oz $24.99, Mangosteen 32 oz $34.99 , Goji Gold 32oz $59.88 etc. Now grocery stores are different than MLM's, and I'm sure you will agree with that. I'm sure Welch's would charge alot more if they put 19 fruits in their grape drink. But you're comparing grocery stores to MLM's. Take a look at some of the fruits and what they cost. Just one fruit puree cost for a 55 gallon drum is over a thousand dollars.

Like I said before, people who post on here say they are distributors,but to prove it is something else. If your company [Cutex] told you not to post or loose your job would you? If one of my companies asked me not to post or loose my income I sure wouldn't do it. You've seen it a couple of times when people posted as you.

Your next sentence dealt with Monavie CEO. You made a mistake here. My mother told me you never tell a lady she lies. It's a mistake OK? and I hope others out there remember this, Monavie CEO WAS not past president. He was Vice President of Sales for Dynamic Essentials. In 2002 he was told to make a tape about Royal Tongan Limu. Remember he's a salaried employee. That same year he left the company because he didn't like what he was doing. Gary Raser was CEO, Kevin Jones was his partner. The FDA shut him down [not Dallin Larsen] Dynamic Essentials CEO Gary Raser, July 18th 2003 . Almost a year after Dallin Larsen left the company. 90,000 bottles were destroyed and crushed in a landfill in Desoto,Ill. about 2.7 million dollars worth. Dallin Larsen was not involved with the company nor was he ever convicted of a crime. That's a fact.

Your next sentence is TRUE there are no healing properties in Monavie. If there was it would cost you a small fortune. And believe you me,you would own them and so would I. ***Drinking it does not give your body “what it needs” unless you were to drink gallons. And you know this how? Now you made a unsubstantiated claim to convince us.

Ms. Juliana James-Thomas,those are facts

Ms.Juliana James-Thomas...

...On your last post you accuse Coldfushionblendz of being a distributor of Monavie and stated that he made an illegal claim. Could you tell me how you know that he or anyone is really a Monavie distributor? And how do you know it was he who posted the message? It could have been you.

I see the person who posted the website to contact him. Now I'll admit I'm not a computer genius and there are people out there like yourself who want to shut down Monavie. I may not like my friend for some reason or other and would like to get back at him. Now I could take my friends website,post a few illegal claims,post it,well you know the rest.

Anyone of the people who do not like Monavie for some reason or other could do this. Maybe he did post. Wouldn't it have been a honorable thing to do and contact him to show that he did make a mistake? As a representative of a company you could have scored some great points.

Posted by HapEinAM | June 9, 2009

As far as this board is concerned, I believe that all we can do, Hap, is accept each other for whatever we represent ourselves to be, unless and until we find out things that are contrary.

To do anything else, to rely on your often cryptic, conspiracy theories to explain away every misstep...that anyone who posts that they are a distributor may in fact be someone posing only to cause problems, I don’t believe is plausible.

Of course I'm sure some of that goes on, but with technology, being able to prove exactly who the true sender may be, the truth will ultimately run to ground. It’s really not some huge mystery. No matter who signs as whom it’s not rocket science to determine exactly which computer, if not the specific sender, was. Of course I’m sure some bad anti-MonaVie person could break into BJ’s apartment and fire off a post to PurpleHorror while he’s off frolicking on the beaches of the world. Not likely though, do you think?

Someone doing something like that and then making a fraudulent or frivolous allegation would be in just as much, or maybe more trouble than the juice pimp making a claim of medical benefit or misrepresentation about earning potential, but that doesn't make the juice pimp any less wrong or either act any more acceptable.

And you think I should contact offenders first to try to give a courtesy notice of their errant ways? Hmmm. I don’t believe that is either my responsibility or even a wise thing to do. I am not an enforcer or counselor in that regard.

Before taking up a business a person should make sure they know the various rules and laws that impact that choice, shouldn’t they?

If I found out a doctor was doing something wrong, illegal, or unsafe, do you think I should report them to the licensing and professional standards responsible for overseeing their work or should I go to the doctor and try to educate them….give them another chance? After that, if they continued to someone else’s harm, what of my decision then?

If a crack dealer hangs out on the corner should I complain to the authorities or just give him a talkin’ to…cuz, golly gee, Wally, surely he’ll see he’s traveled off the path and correct himself accordingly. No, Beav…oops, I mean, Hap, I don’t think so.

I'll leave it to the professionals at the FDA, USDA, NOB, FTC, BBB, and MonaVie's own compliance department to determine whom the true posters are and whether laws, contractual agreements, or both have been broken.

I still didn’t hear from you as to what questions you’ve asked me that I’ve refused to answer or what exactly you meant by the “…what about income disclosure..” comment you made.

I also don’t know what it is you do that I’m against. Please explain.

WOW What a scam You all would make great AMWAY sellers! Scary real Scary You all are so Gullible! Shame!

most mlm's are hype, dreams, and filled with uneducated (in the area of things they sell) folk, that's the plain fact no matter who jumps up and down and says otherwise either in anger or laughter. they infiltrate real medical websites as *posers*. having said that, some sell decent products, but not necessarily any better than some that are lower priced. some sell inferior products, many make outrageous claims because they have to try and sell you on some pipe dream. it's just another version of the travelling saleman with a bottle of snake oil or elixir. supreme bullshit and yet, people still fall for it.
monavie i have tried, it's mostly white grape juice, it's overhyped fruit juice no matter what any stupid diamond says. grown adults calling themselves *diamond distributors*, come on. i mean really. grow up.

It's crazy how others at the top and how they market their products with these MLM companies and how much they are making as it makes us all that aren't making anything close to what these people are making makes us all go into a tizzy. You have to admit, money and the evilness of it has us all talking and debating, and even fighting. Money is a strange thing ain't it!!!!!

Reading all these comments make my head hurt. I drink the juice because I like it. Im a distributor and only came on board a few months ago. Have I made money ? NOPE... Havent tried either, so thats my fault...

I personally know someone who make approx. 1000.00 a month after autoship deductions. As far as getting commissions on personal orders, not possible based on my understaning of the policy.

Will I ever make $$ at this, DONT KNOW, but I'll never make anything if I don't try. So..
All you haters out there, cant say much for you, but GOD BLESS YOU....

I just ran across this website and I must be honest that it seems as though alot of those commenting are angry for some hidden reason. We all should wonder why such anger exists to actually post over and over and acuse and insult. I suppose that is why bad news keeps new network stations running strong.

I will post this one message plainly for the reason of good news. I am and have been an extreme skeptic to all these MLMs because of one bad egg in Amway about 15 years ago. I had a friend call and tell me about MV Oct 2008. She did not claim cures or magic just feeling rested and more energy. I decided to help my friend and order a case of MV. The cost was 146.00 incl shipping for a months supply. I thought it was a high cost but did it anyway. To my surprise she was right about those two things. After about 3 bottles my and my husbands knee joint pain was no longer there or lower back pain or reflux or my daughter bathroom cramping. I am not saying this to sell anything, these are just MY facts. You can choose to believe me or not. My friends and family know that I do not lie to sell something. At that point I launched my own research (approx 50 hours worth)on Mona Vie and the acai berry. I was uninformed as to scams and pyramids and searched the FDA,FTC,USDA, and BBB. I learned so much about this issue and what to watch for. EVERYONE should type in Mona Vie, Dallin Larsen, Dynamic Essentials and read all that is listed. I did not want to become a MV dist but after sharing this with a few friends that had more serious ailment and seeing things with my own eyes I never would have believed it. I will not tell you the conditions because many of you would not believe me and why feed your "false claim" ideas. MV is not magical it is packed full of natural anti-oxidants. My careful observation is that so many of us are nutritionally deprived and putting this type of nutrition in a deprived body will show SOMETHING. What all of you should do is order, as I did, a months supply and drink 4 oz daily and then you could say I tried it.

The FDA is a "GOVERNMENT" agency, need I say more? Absolutely, we need policing of consumer products. Read between the lines of why the FDA made a company pay $2mill and destroy product. Also if you stand behind the actions of a GOVERNMENT agency take a close look at some of my research of the USDA. I know most of you do not want to hear this but the USDA has made fruits cure cancer claims on their website backed up with pages upon pages of research and clinical studies of THOUSANDS of people.
Here is the link to check this out:
www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2005/report/HTML/D6_SelectedFood.htm

To include 13 servings of fruit to your diet will help you no matter how you look at. Diabetics have to allow for it although.

Have you checked the prices of prescription and side effects of drugs lately. I do believe you should close down this blog and start up a blog to slam the drug companies. They have violate and taken so much more that MV could dream of. Think objectively here at GOVERNMENT agency and if they are looking out for you.

Don't bother to insult me because I probably will never return to this blog.

Have a great day and just try MV for yourself! It could change your life OR supply the USDA recommendations of 5-13 servings of fruit DAILY! How much fruit do you eat daily???

I've read through some of these posts, to be honest, if you don't like it...don't use it. I do not work (or distribute) the MonaVie product, but I do drink it. Nothing but positives, not cheap, but organic fruit servings would cost more on a daily basis. As for the business, the person from whom I started buying MonaVie is still doing so (about 1 year) and has apparently done pretty well...I can't relate other experiences with sellers or distributors. I know for a fact that it is very difficult to succeed in ANY MLM - but, if that's where my interests lied, I'd look at that company.

Bet everyone negative on this site twords monavie is pushing another product but you will never find a monavie distributor knocking another product...oh just so yall know we can LEGALY say monavie pulse lowers cholesterol so lets think about this...to drink monavie it costs 4$ a day....how much is cholesterol medication? how much are sleeping pills? drinking energy drinks?? the thing that you guys are forgeting is that your getting 13 servings a fruits a DAY, now if you dont want to be healthy then go crawl under a rock and let the rest of us live healthy, now if you can tell your friends and get the product for free then what is the big deal? i have only bought the product one time when i started and now monavie is giving it to me for free (2 cases) trust me the money is there and its growing fast! yall are just too stupid to see that you can get an amazing product because all it is is fruit in a bottle for free and make some extra money! if your friends cant make any money in this then they arnt very bright!! GOD MADE FRUIT AND MONAVIE STUCK IT IN A BOTTLE!! Drink up maybe it will change your terible attitude......(lets all hope)

MONAVIE FOR LIFE!!!!!
JOE S.

JJT--

as per usual, all the examples you listed in your last post are your VERY SUBJECTIVE opinions. {{SIGH}} What else is new under the sun....The only item that was somewhat factual was Royal Tongan Limu's demise some years ago.

You can't even imagine how dumb you appear when you spout off "facts" about Monavie-- you stand on your soapbox proclaiming that apples and blueberries have more antioxidant properties than ACAI -- ROFLMAO -- all because you bought into the lies printed by various rags {all making pathetic attempts to slow down the juggernaut that is MONAVIE}--not to mention the crapola spewed by our good buddy FOOD FAKE. It's OK dearie if you want to believe everything you read as gospel~~ that's your malfunction!

I've got a super-d-duper idea for ya--why don't you take me up on it-- why don't you and your ignorant brown smelly brethren formulate an apple/blueberry elixir --see BSS for the "VC" - and put it up against Monavie?? you can sell it for $ 5 and I'll betcha Monavie blows your product out of the water--just as it does currently to its so-called competitors. I, for one, have drank gallons and gallons of apple juice in my life--but somehow, it never gave me more energy, never helped me sleep better, never alleviated pain. It did make my pee real yellow, if I recall. Yet, when I consume a few O*U*N*C*E*S of Monavie on a daily basis... I, along with loads of others, am blessed with better energy and sleep, along with reduction in aches/pains. And I hate the fact that I NEVER GET SICK!! Here's the real "GOSPEL" folks: This could NEVER happen unless the ingredients in the formula were FAR SUPERIOR to apples and blueberries.

C,mon JJT---who are you trying to kidd??

MonaVie has no magical healing properties. Drinking it does not give your body “what it needs” unless you were to drink gallons. Many diseases, ailments, and disorders DO NOT miraculously disappear, unless they were psychosomatic in the first place.

R*O*F*L*M*A*O -- the drone that keeps on droning---the one----the only -----JJT

mv4life

NEWSFLASH:

EATING 40 MILLION BOXES OF CHEERIOS LOWERS CHOLESTEROL.

WHO'S GOING TO BASH GENERAL MILLS FOR MAKING THIS CLAIM?

Hey RAND C...Learn how to spell moron! It's not looser it's LOSER. That's why you need more than a 5th grade education. LOSER!! LOSER!! This word fits you quite well.

TOM

D. McNamee is another smelly incarnation. He did try to disguise the writing but at the end, he got all smelly on us again. I think smelly dreams about Monavie. He's hooked. Problem is I don't think he has ever even tried it.

Berry Bob, Monavie makes people happy. They feel better and they make better choices in their lives. And they enjoy it. They enjoy drinking their functional food. You can't put a number on that. It's priceless. Monavie Rocks! You stick with the raisins. We choose lusciousness.

B of VA (AKA Monavie distributor Nanci Purks) said There are so many copycat products now. It is the highest flattery.. Some have just a few juices and some have vitamins added and/or herbs added. None are Monavie. In two weeks at this time we will be ordering our first Monavie E

I replied: What an imbecilic comment. It is Monavie that is the copycat; always has been…Monavie should win an award for being the most unoriginal ripoff MLM company in history.

B of VA (AKA Monavie distributor Nanci Purks) countered: Neurotic Irv is upset!!!!!!! He is seeing things. I NEVER said the energy drink is original. How stupid. There are many copycopy Monavie products just like I said. Exactly like I said. OK, enough of that.”

Actually you said “copy cat” products, not “copycopy” but I’ll assume that was a typo and that you meant copycat.

Your lack of intellectual honesty (or mental acuity) is truly staggering. You made a lofty and blatantly untrue statement about how other products have copied Monavie and I simply pointed out the facts -– every one of Monavie’s products has copied products that already existed in the marketplace. They copied the acai juice idea from Sambazon; the overpriced MLM miracle-cure fruit punch model from Royal Tongan Limu, Tahitian Noni, Himalayan Goji, etc.; the sterol-enriched juice concept from Minute Maid; and the energy drink angle from products like Red Bull, Rock Star, et al. Like I said, there is nothing even vaguely original about Monavie, except perhaps the extent to which distributors will resort to dishonest and marketing to flog the crap.

you all are talking about how sucessful mona vie is but none of you are saying as disributers you are sucessful I know a few people selling it and they have not made any money they are spending more than they are making so all I have to say is that all you idiots are making mona vie rich and not yourselves. so whos getting scammed?

Hey Mark

Glad to see your still stealing air from those of us on this planet that have created our own real business.

As they say in the song the gambler "you have to know when to hold em and when to fold em" and Mona vie the Opportunity was a fold em, all most from the start. You are not a quitter you are a looser. (sorry dude)

You would have to be blind not to see this is Larsen's Third MLM Scam and that DR Shauss has know real credentials and Brigg Hard stared his career as a dope peddler. Who wouldn't want to follow these guys! Give me a free membership and an auto ship where I can send them a couple of hundred bucks every month.

I don't care about your sponsor, I want to be there the day they give you your leased car and you quit your JOB. How ever I won't hold my breath.

RANDC

Who cares if the process for acai is patented or not? It still didn't raise the Orac score on monavie, which is 22.8. That's less than peanut butter or raisins.

hahahahahahahahahahaha! This is so great!! It isnt very suprising that somebody sat down and took their time to make this website! Did you get paid alot of money for this? Obviously you dont make much money when you start in this company or it would be a scam stupid! Nobody claims this to be a get rich quick scheme but with some hard work and effort you can make alot of money in this company! This juice doesnt heal you, your body heals itself because of good nutrition dummy! go find something else to knock on loosers! rachel ray/ dr. oz/ opra/ indy 500/ jeff bodine/ boston red sox!!!!!!

MONA VIE FOR LIFE!!!!!!

I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON A ROTEN STRAWBERRY!

Given the size of this blog, I kind of doubt my post will get much notice, but here goes.

First of all let me make this very clear, I HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR MONA VIE! The experience I am going to relate comes from two friends who have both tried Mona Vie and been hurt by it. I have since stopped speaking to both of them, as their sales tactics became overaggressive and totally changed their personality.

One friend fell for the Mona Vie line hook line and sinker. He didn't use the juice, because after 3 months it simply did nothing for him, but continued aggressively with sales trying to succeed in the mlm structure.

After a year of very hard work, isolating his friends and family, and spending an enormous amount of time and money, he dropped out. While I can't confirm these numbers, he claims to have signed a total of 412 people over the course of the year, via "tastings" and his website. Of those, all but about 75 dropped out within 4 months, after losing their money.

That friend is now involved with another Network Marketing company, and actually experiencing some level of success. In his time with monavie, he lost thousands of dollars, and was actually sued by a credit card company. No matter how much money he made for them, or how many people he signed, he simply could never recoup the money he put in.

Another friend, who I had been very close with, joined Mona Vie because his uncle talked him into it. He's been doing it for about a month and his personality has changed utterly.

As of yet, he hasn't been able to make any sales, or sign anyone in his down line... but not from lack of trying. All he talks about is Mona Vie, and how he's going to become a black diamond if he just tries hard enough and invests enough money. He doesn't realize how much he's changed, or how badly he's being scammed.

I relate these two stories because from extensive research and viewing these two examples, I've arrived at the conclusion that Mona Vie is a predatory company aimed at fleecing the gullible out of their money.

All of the distributors I've met so far have been shameless cons, who I've actually caught lying openly and violating Mona Vie's own promotion policies.

Stay away from Mona Vie!

WOW...I've been drinking MonaVie for three months now....More energy, NO heartburn...ever, lower blood pressure and cholesterol levels, no more coffee, sleep better, more relaxed, etc..etc....all Priceless....MonaVie is a very inexpensive product.

All I can say is I wish my misguided coworker would stop pestering me to join in on this scam. He's obsessed. Cultlike? I'd have to say yes.

For those making comments here..JJT'S SCARE TACTICS ARE A JOKE. She has nothing else to do with her life so she tries to make others miserable. Take her comments lightly because they are not worth reading nor hearing. JUST HOT AIR...THAT'S ALL IT IS!

Tom

Neurotic Irv is upset!!!!!!! He is seeing things. I NEVER said the energy drink is original. How stupid. There are many copycopy Monavie products just like I said. Exactly like I said. OK, enough of that.

tinkerjuarez.blogspot.com/2009/05/emv.html

It looks to me like George posted his source's website. Hopefully he won't do that anymore. But it does keep JJT busy.

Getting hair to grow and eye brows to return can happen with good nutrition. Poisons can make them fall out, and good nutrition can be amazing for the body. JJT is so quick to react that she misses the big picture.

Ms.Juliana James-Thomas

I know that you and your friends are always on the lookout for people to make mistakes in their lives. A good example was Coldfushionblendz

On your last post you accuse Coldfushionblendz of being a distributor of Monavie and stated that he made an illegal claim. Could you tell me how you know that he or anyone is really a Monavie distributor? And how do you know it was he who posted the message? It could have been you.

I see the person who posted the website to contact him. Now I'll admit I'm not a computer genius and there are people out there like yourself who want to shut down Monavie. I may not like my friend for some reason or other and would like to get back at him. Now I could take my friends website,post a few illegal claims,post it,well you know the rest.

Anyone of the people who do not like Monavie for some reason or other could do this. Maybe he did post. Wouldn't it have been a honorable thing to do and contact him to show that he did make a mistake? As a representative of a company you could have scored some great points.

...I asked you questions that you didn't answer. Just because you don't like Monavie shouldn't mean you can't answer them. We all start at zero,if you do nothing you're still at zero. If Mr. and Mrs. J start at zero and work hard an diligence they can achieve the top. But it takes time. Imagine what happens “mathematically” when person #1 recruits 10 people but 6 just want to buy the product at wholesale, 2 joined because a family member asked them to but then do nothing else, and the remaining 2 people actually work. This is why you would never run out of people.

Posted by HapEinAM | June 6, 2009 7:58 PM

Dear HapEinAM:

I do not have a vendetta against sales people or multilevel marketers whatsoever. Why would you say that? What do you mean I want to keep others from doing what you do? I couldn't care less how many people get into MLM's. I just don't want them making illegal claims either of benefit from the product or potential for income. Unless you're a seller of MonaVie...which you've repeatedly told us you're not, then I'm not trying to keep anyone from doing anything you do.

I have no idea what you mean either by "how about income disclosure" or questions you asked that I did not answer.

Also, there's a difference between "opinion" and "fact". It seems there's a lot of confusion with the two. Just because you don't like something someone says doesn't make it subjective and therefore an opinion. A fact is a fact is a fact. Calling a fact an opinion doesn’t make it so.

MonaVie has less nutrition and fewer antioxidants than a glass of common grape juice or a single apple.

MonaVie as a product, minus the wine bottle packaging is worth about $3.00 if it were sold retail.

MonaVie distributors tell lies and repeat illegal, unsubstantiated claims in order to sell and recruit.

MonaVie’s CEO is the past president of an extremely similar juice-selling venture that was shut down by the United States government with all the remaining product was required destroyed. The reason? Sale were made by making illegal claims of benefit for a juice from a far off land.

MonaVie has no magical healing properties. Drinking it does not give your body “what it needs” unless you were to drink gallons. Many diseases, ailments, and disorders DO NOT miraculously disappear, unless they were psychosomatic in the first place.

If an overweight or otherwise unhealthy person starts making better lifestyle choices, even losing as little as 10% of their excess weight, lots of great things happen physically…..whether or not they are drinking MonaVie.

Hap, those are facts.

You really want to make a difference in your life stop complaining and talking and start working guys...

If you dont have what it takes then dont even try to make some money out of a Network Marketing company... go out make some cents in an ordinary job pals...

accept your fucked up reality and go do something else with your life..

Best Regards..

Blue Diamond Executive

Monavie Corporate

I sell Monavie at my juice bar on McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey. A reserve Colonel in the Air Force with Alopecia got all his hair back including his eyebrows by drinking Monavie. He became a distributor. Knowledge and persistence is the key to success in any business. Stop complaining and start drinking the juice.

Posted by coldfuzionblendz | June 7, 2009 9:31 PM

Dear Coldfuzionblendz,

That right there is an illegal claim. You, as a MonaVie distributor, may not repeat, post, say, or write anything even remotedly like that. It will get your butt reported to the FDA and your beloved company shut down. That's the precise reason why the rest of us are up in arms.

We're forever told those types of statements are NEVERmade...

We all know better.

MonaVie is the best thing that ever happened to me. I first heard about it about a year ago, and just like everyone else I googled it and found this website. Which I'm glad I did because I saw a post from a distributor with his website www.mymonavie.com/finallysleeping. So I decided to check it out and try some. It's the best thing I ever did. I've been drinking it for some time now, and feel great. I also decided to sign on as a distributor a few months back, and now I'm drinking it for free. You'd be crazy not to try it.

www.mymonavie.com/finallysleeping

Posted by george | June 8, 2009 2:00 AM

george, that little ditty just violated your agreement with MonaVie on a couple of different levels...actually you and your upline both. Doesn't your contract say it's illegal to promote or recruit on the Internet, except on their approved platforms?

In the words of BofVA

Hot off the Presses

MonaVie’s patent for their freeze drying process has finally been approved and should be in place very shortly. Hows that for you folks that don't believe. As for proof ,look it up just like I did, you know how to prove everything else you should be able to prove this one.

HAP

MonaVie may be featured in the 2009 Inc 500 list of fastest growing publically held companies! They are the feature company of the week, with Inc magazine this week and talking about the launch of EMV and interview with MonaVie CFO Devin Thorpe.

www.Inc.com/articles/2009/06/monavie.html

I have been so busy that I wasn't watching the patent. It has been allowed (on May 20, 2009) with 14 claims and the issue fee was paid on June 2, 2009. Good work!!

Well- Hot off the presses that are soon shutting down ...There is only ONE SLUG and it is I , therfore I am indeed flattered that my accurate verbal depictions of this pathetic liquid that I wont even qualify as a "product" have been noticed and awareded summarialy buy the opposition as they are so fired up that I have released the truth about the marketing scam to get everybody you know in a full-nelson and pick thier pockets to buy the putrified sludge that all these hollow-headed distributor-cap heads dont know what to do but mount A personal attack against me because they would loose thier shirts if they even dared try to debate these facts on an adult level ...they dont know how #1 and #2 the ones that might wont because they can see the carnage of such a ridiculous and preposterous undertaking ( pun intended ) . Therefore its just , comments like , oh hes somebody else , or hes this or hes that - all baseless nonsense and when I read it I laugh heartily because the ones out there looking for clues why this whole entangled mess of a sales ripoff has turned into a folly of a misguided machination that was destined for the dumpster from day 1 , but going back to my very first post --there are some smart people out there with VC ( thats Venture Capital for you Distributors of this stuff--that means the people that put up the money to start the scam ...is that in laymens terms enough ...maybe not ? oh- well) They are aware based on past pars , and track records of even the worst of the worst MLMS they stand to make $$$$ no matter how bad the stuff is , just enough to never work again if they can keep enough people like the daft labotomized lemmings in here that think it is the wholy Grail --pumping away with false earnings and stories of this many 100 aires and this many nickel aires people will follow a turd trail if enough others say it leads to a bag of money and not the arse-whole of a cow . Thats just plain and simple fact --most people in this country are FOLLOWERS hence this ripp works for a whole then fizzles and they go to Caymans laughing on thier Yachts at all you fools --and they dont bring one bottle of the stuff with em because thier names have already been changed and they live happily ever after ...thats usually about 4-10 people MAXIMUM.

RandC.
Hi quitter. How you doing?
Nope, no leased Benz yet but my sponsor is getting close. Thanks to him, I'll have mine in about another year and a half.
Thanks for asking.

mark

WOW .. do those Monavie defenders actually read? anything?

From Newsweek (which for all it's faults is far more trustworthy than your crook boss):

"Meanwhile, most of the million-strong sales team is really just drinking the juice, according to MonaVie's 2007 income disclosure statement, a federally required printout of their distributor earnings. More than 90 percent were considered "wholesale customers," whose earnings are mostly discounts on sales to themselves. Fewer than 1 percent qualified for commissions and of those, only 10 percent made more than $100 a week. And the dropout rate, while not disclosed by MonaVie, is around 70 percent, according to a top recruiter."

Pyramid scheme at it's best. 1 in a 1000 makes any money to speak of. Can you say scam?

The whole article:
www.newsweek.com/id/150499

HEY RAND C...YOUR WIFE HAS BEEN PLAYING IN POISON IVY. MONAVIE IS A FRUIT JUICE ONLY!! YOU EXPECT US TO BELIEVE THAT A JUICE GAVE YOUR WIFE A BUTT RASH. GET SERIOUS MAN....

TOM

B of VA (aka distributor Nanci Purks) said: “ There are so many copycat products now. It is the highest flattery. Some have just a few juices and some have vitamins added and/or herbs added. None are Monavie. In two weeks at this time we will be ordering our first Monavie E.”

What an ibecilic comment. It is Monavie that is the copycat; always has been.

Monavie followed in Sambazon’s footsteps by selling acai juice.

Monavie copied the “overpriced BS MLM juice model” of Royal Tongan Limu, Tahitian Noni, and Himalayan Goji.

Monavie Pulse copied Minute Maid Heart-Wise OJ with sterols.

And now you are trying to tell us that Monavie’s BS energy drink is original??? They are arriving at that party extremely late. There is nothing original about energy drinks…hell even Amway beat them to the punch on that.

Monavie should win an award for being the most unoriginal ripoff MLM company in history.

Hot off the Press from New York:

Monavie E will be available for order on June 13th and will be shipped out on June 19th.

Stay tuned.

MonaVie is the best thing that ever happened to me. I first heard about it about a year ago, and just like everyone else I googled it and found this website. Which I'm glad I did because I saw a post from a distributor with his website www.mymonavie.com/finallysleeping. So I decided to check it out and try some. It's the best thing I ever did. I've been drinking it for some time now, and feel great. I also decided to sign on as a distributor a few months back, and now I'm drinking it for free. You'd be crazy not to try it.

www.mymonavie.com/finallysleeping

Well, I was invited to a Monavie evening by a confirmed Devotee to the 'Monavie Money Makers extravaganza', and was greatly impressed with the way the audience were 'played' (I believe misguided & hyped up), to such an enthusiastic pitch where's, they left with the firm conviction
that they could sell fridge's to eskimo's!

There is NO doubt in my mind that much money has been made by those at the top, If you were there at the start you have done well!

The average 'joe' may or may not make money. If not, then you have some very expensive juice to drink in the day's to come.

My question would be (and no I am NOT interested in being a distributor) is this..

When is saturation point reached??? Doe's the world need a nation of Monavie distributors?

Jerry,

2 bananas a day? Do you also walk on your knuckles?

mark

Nice Try, B of VA, MARK/ harold, unlike you I post under only one name. My writing is not as good as the folks you mention, but thank you I am flattered.

What I said about sponsoring twenty folks is true.
What I said about my wifes face breaking out in a rash is true. It cleared up after she stopped drinking Monie Vie.

As Far as Monavie Its a great company if you are a Lemming.

By the way Mark, have you quit you job and gone full time yet and are you still hoping for that leased car that they give you?

I know everybody suggests MonaVie as a cure for everything from diabetes to arthritis and more but -- I've noticed that a lot of men using the product are going bald / hair thinning in women. Is there any info on MonaVie causing alopecia? or hair loss?

Posted by: Sid | June 4, 2009 8:32 PM

Yes,
I sell Monavie at my juice bar on McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey. A reserve Colonel in the Air Force with Alopecia got all his hair back including his eyebrows by drinking Monavie. He became a distributor. Knowledge and persistence is the key to success in any business. Stop complaining and start drinking the juice.

So now Jerry Hummel is BSS, aka, smelly. What is with you smelly. Do you live in America? Do you have any experience of Monavie? Any??? No one knocks on your door to sell you Monavie.

Did you notice that when you write as Rand C you sign your name as Rane C. Slow up, you've become a one-man (or boy) circus. You just can't disguise your writing style. And you can't keep up with all your IDs.

I bet you have never even had a drink of Monavie. What a waste of energy.

I always have Monavie on ice. Are you game?

Jerry Hummel...Poor little baby..I feel soooo bad for you. I need a hanky to wipe away the tears. EAT YOUR BANANAS JERK!! Keep your sad stories to yourself!

JIM

Rand C...We all know you are related to SMELLY & JJT. We all understand why you trying to defend them because they have lost the battle lately and they have become old news! Good try though..The only thing these people you mentioned that they expose and uncover is thier stupidity and laziness!!

Harold

Rand C is another ID for BSS. He really should have someone else write for him if he wants to play at being someone else. The one and only style of BSS. I doubt that he has 20 friends and if he is apologizing to them for his wife's face breaking out into a rash then I'm surprised he could lead them anywhere. More BS from BSS, aka, smelly.

There are so many copycat products now. It is the highest flattery. Some have just a few juices and some have vitamins added and/or herbs added. None are Monavie.

In two weeks at this time we will be ordering our first Monavie E.

A nice cold bottle (or case) of Monavie would make a great Father's Day present.

This whole thing is just a farce. The monetary issue is not what is stake here, or the health thing either. This SCAM ruins marriages and sends friends and family running when they see you coming. I was in, now I am OUT! My marriage has been destroyed because I refused to be a part of this Scam. Do I believe the Acai berry has benefits? Yes, I do. So do bananas and I eat 2 a day. When they put this stuff on a shelf in the Grocery store and let people decide for themselves if they want it or not, then this whole drama will end. NOBODY comes knocking on my door to sell me a bottle of $30 banana juice! You know why? BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD BUY IT!!!!!!!Take vitamins, eat right and drink FRUIT JUICE. Save yer $$$$$$$$$$$

Just wanted to take a moment and thank Juliana James-Thomas, Brown Smelly Slug, Food Tech, Irv and SNB, for exposing The Monavie company for what it is.

I wish I had known about this site a year earlier it would have saved me and the twenty or so people I got involved in Money-vie a lot of time and money. My apologies to them.

Plus my wifes face would not have broken out in a rash! Live and learn some people pay a higher price.

Rane C

Well I am a monavie distributor and I love the juice. I started drinking in june of 2008 and decided to try and sell starting jan of 2009. well yes im drinking for free and I only work this parttime. I am starting to see a little profit and I am confident that a year from now I will be making a considerable profit PARTIME. I would like to thank monaie for giving me this opportunity. You have to work it not wait for it to happeen. teresa fost

Here is the botton line. If you are not in MonaVie, you are an idiot. Go to youtube and type in monavie and Dr. Lou Niles. he's a cancer doctor. See what he says. WTF do you do?
Idiot. I bet you don't make $50k a year so how can you say ppl don't make money in this. I make more than that and I did it in 7 months big mouth!!!!

SID.......Sorry you know who accuses me for you and vice-verus. When you don't have all you ducks in a row you can't shoot straight. Like the man said : "The lights are on but nobody is home". Thanks for setting him straight

HAP

Ms. Juliana-James Thomas...Thank you for you replied. "El Dumbo" here made a bad math mistake. Didn't pay attention to what he was doing. Thank you for correcting me. I guess that's why they put erasers on the end of pencils.

Ms. Juliana that's why I asked you questions that you didn't answer. Just because you don't like Monavie shouldn't mean you can't answer them. We all start at zero,if you do nothing you're still at zero. If Mr. and Mrs. J start at zero and work hard an diligence they can achieve the top. But it takes time. Imagine what happens “mathematically” when person #1 recruits 10 people but 6 just want to buy the product at wholesale, 2 joined because a family member asked them to but then do nothing else, and the remaining 2 people actually work. This is why you would never run out of people.

Failures of 90% of EVERYONE IS SET UP OR DOOMED FOR FAILURE, I was doomed for failure until a friend showed me what I was doing wrong. Sure I could have quit and lost. Did you ever quit ? NO! you chose to do what ever it took to get your goal. Most people who want to loose weight quit. Most people who want to get into shape quit. Most people who start a business fail. Most people who want to play a musical instrument quit. What about the other 10%? They had to start somewhere. Were they doomed for failure?

What are the chances of people in the company you work for of achieving your status. Or how about income disclosure? Just curious

Hello Rhonda.....Thank you for your kind words. Ms. Juliana was just giving her opinion. She doesn't like Monavie and there is nothing going to change that . Not you or me will change her mind. If we could, we would be selling it at more that $20 a bottle, believe you me.

She is not a loser, you can't lose if you're not in it. She likes what she does. Do you think you or I could change her from being a mortgage professional? NO !!! I'm successful in three MLM's she could never change my mind. In those three it cost me a thousand dollars to join. In just one I've recovered all my cost plus in less then a year.. So I have lost nothing. the others are making my retirement look better every day and with my JOB I'm debt free.

Remember Rhonda, we may not agree with what they say and they don't agree with what we say. So we are making money while they try to figure out how they can discourage people from doing what we do.

JJT and Brown Smelly Slug have MONAVIE tasting parties together. WHAT A SCARY TEAM!! By the way, both were just married and are planning to have a slug together.

JOSH

Gee-Whiz Sid-HaPeinAM you sure are rialed up over somethings that you claim I said were false ? Interesting the pschy profile of a person that gets so upset over something like that makes the fact that whatever was said or stated was based in truth and it could only Illicit such a vehimate response with that much negative energy if TRUE. So you just buried yourself --you see my friend , I am EDUCATED and you cant lob up fat softballs like that and not expect me to nail them right out of the park . Sorry --chump -

hey-chump-- I think I speak for everyone here when we offer you a 3-word bit of advice ...

SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP

bsm

Hap...Don't let JJT get in your head. Her last comment to you was ridiculous. You can't reason with her so why do you try? She is another major loser in the small group that post on this site. Hap...don't give her the time of day. JJT has nothing to say worth hearing.

Rhonda

OMG,

Irv has a boy friend and JJT sells sex toys. SOB, Breezy, Food Tech, and some slug F'er are all I see. I haven't looked at this in 6 months and its the same 8 idiots with the tiniest of brains and nothing else to do.

Get A Life !!!

Hey I really think that everyone chooses their lifestyle, whether they want to utilize this product or not, I think all of you need to grow up and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!! Get a life!

Gee-Whiz Sid-HaPeinAM you sure are rialed up over somethings that you claim I said were false ? Interesting the pschy profile of a person that gets so upset over something like that makes the fact that whatever was said or stated was based in truth and it could only Illicit such a vehimate response with that much negative energy if TRUE. So you just buried yourself --you see my friend , I am EDUCATED and you cant lob up fat softballs like that and not expect me to nail them right out of the park . Sorry --chump -

Hap, 4 hours X 60 minutes / 7 days = 34.29 minutes...I don't think you were necessarily playing fast and loose with the numbers.

I do believe the scammers prey on people who may be easily misled or confused by flash and sound bites. I'm sure people who aren't great with numbers are easier to fool.

That's why it's important to READ the fine print. UNDERSTAND what you read or have it explained by a disinterested 3rd party with the expertise and ethics to do so without bias, any open or hidden agenda, and in such a way you do understand.

I don't think I'm any kind of class different from you, Hap, but I worry that you've worn out those shoes by being the pawn of unscrupulous scam artists, selling you a bill of goods disguised as a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

AvidReader...Thanks for your comment and the TRUTH. This is what we have been trying to tell a few of these morons for some time now. They just can't seem to get it! Monavie will continue to grow stronger regardless of the few naysayers.

Mitch

To Avid-Reader- Again you state " I'm not involved or attached in either way " - what a load of BS You think everybody is a dumb as the people you interact with , because as I read your post and the statments you make and the calculations of the "BILLIONS" that have "CHANGED PEOPLES LIVES" obviously dont come from an "UNBIASED" source so you are obviously a hypocritical liar and giver of misinformation . You say those numbers are exact - NOT - I already ripped you on your pseudo financial pedantic charade about those earnings -- well you didnt say earning but the wording IMPLIES that the company has yielded in gross profits those numbers and thats about as far from the truth as a speech from GW Bush on how Iraq had WMD's. Your a poser and if you dont have the stones to be forthright about #A -who you are -distributor etc. and #B what the real ststus of the companys( if you want to call it that) fiscal history actually is then you are simply hiding from the truth and a weakling attempting to sway pubilc opinion by saying - I'm actually a neutral person who has no vested interest in this whole thing but I just happen to have all these specific numbers and data on the companys historical track record , then give no opposing views -- you are as transparent as a fart and equal in value

Punkiness - what are U doing here -- just cant keep your eyes off the car wreck huh . Your no different than anybody else , so climb down off your high horse and start shoveling fertilizer again. OR did you get laid off from that job due to inability to understand the scooping concept .

Avid-Reader you need to get in to a finance class as your statment that the company went from "Zero to 1 Billion dollars in just over three years " could mean any number of fiscal scenariaos, What was the VC that was put up to get the company running from day one when it was just a thought in somebodys head ? Oh you dont know? What were the inital production costs ? , to create the product , chemists fee's, Bottling , art , distribution , mass marketing , advertising etc. the list easily goes far past $500,000 and I just did a Rough analysis of start up . Anybody thats GRADUATED from business school with a degree knows that when you decide to sell wigets the very first wiget produced is the most expensive and depending on the type of wiget it can exceed 1 Billion EASILY . So Avid-Reader you can fool people that sell this stuff to each other like a circle-jerk that have IQ's below 50 with that awe inspiring statment , but they have no clue about the things I mentioned which are based in REALITY- Nice Try -- The sales of the stuff peaked over 2 years ago if you look a the real graph that I had to pull teeth to build from the quarterlies that they DONT want people to have and it looks like a roller coaster ,here comes the ground floor again and anybody on that roller coaster better bail quick because thats where the track ends.

health.yahoo.com/experts/eatthis/32609/the-truth-about-energy-drinks/

An article about some of the energy drinks. There is a link to controversial food additives too.

Two weeks from Saturday Monavie E will debut.

HEY SLUG HEAD...I am not HAP. I am Sid. You just can't handle the TRUTH smelly boy. Deal with it. There are several out there other than Hap that think you are a useless idiot!! Your pea brained comments will never tarnish Monavie's success and vision! You simply can not stand to see others healthy and make money while your LAZY BUTT most likely collects welfare checks. Keep writing though.. your stupidity is very amusing......

SID

I know everybody suggests MonaVie as a cure for everything from diabetes to arthritis and more but -- I've noticed that a lot of men using the product are going bald / hair thinning in women. Is there any info on MonaVie causing alopecia? or hair loss?

Also, while it's supposed to help with weight loss, a lot of people are gaining weight while drinking the juice. What are they doing wrong?

MonaVie and the acai berry - with all the discussions, hype, misinformation, etc. - take a look at all the research, double-blind clinical studies, medical journal publications and comparison charts indexed at http://www.RealHealthAnswers.com

For a company to go from zero to over a billion dollars in just over 3 years and be pushing 2 billion, something exists deeper than the shallow opinions - on both sides - that I see frequently posted here and elsewhere.

I'm not involved or attached either way. It just amazes me that when a person or company goes out and becomes extraordinarily successful, raises the bar, makes a major impact in people's live - generally shaking things up - some have to find ways to be critical and generally demonstrate a lack of doing their homework before opening their mouth.

Evaluate Monavie after checking some facts at http://www.RealHealthAnswers.com and review their IDS and what they have done in just over 4 years. MonaVie and acai is no longer under the radar - do your own research.

Ms. Juliana James-Thomas

Thank you for being so gracious with me. I hope I wasn't upsetting. I was trying to show you that not all MLM's are the same. Amway, Reliv, Noni Juice are like Monavie. They recruited

I know you said you worked 4 hours a week but I broke it down to 18 minutes a day just for the hell of it. Didn't mean nothing by it.

Maybe my choice of words was not appropriate to use on the IDS. But there is over sixty thousand making money and of those 344 are making over a hundred thousand dollars a year. And like the disclaimer said Any representation or guarantee of earnings would be misleading. Success with Monavie results only from successful sales efforts,which require hard work, diligence , and leadership. Maybe I don't understand it.

You said : ***I don't have to go to any meeting or tasting party or BDU to find claims... The reason I asked you to was there is no way you can prove these folks are distributors. They could be somebody from another MLM trying to make a name for themselves. Could I ask how you prove that these folks sell Monavie? And you're going by what people say on this post? That's hearsay

I know that I have said things that were not the truth. But I'm telling you that I have never heard a distributor make any health claims. I've been to meetings up and down the coast and heard people give a testimonial say that they drank Monavie when they suffered joint pain and after five days their pain was gone. But never a distributor, they would be cutting their own throat

What has past is past and you can not bring it back. You know that yourself. I been to meeting where Mr. Dallin Larsen, Mr. Brig Hart both in Amway and Monavie speak and a few others. Neither one has ever made a health claim. I know you'll say what about the tape Mr. Larsen made?

Well he was a salaried employee of Dynamic Essentials as VP of Sales, the CEO was Gary Raser. Since he is paid to do a job he made the tape. He left the company before the FDA shut it down. When you work for a company and they ask you to do something you do it whether you like it or not. He didn't like what he was doing and left the company a year before it was shut down. He was never charge with a crime or prosecuted. I'm I not right on this?

Neither of us are in Monavie. You are against and am for. Iam middle class and you upper class. But that is what makes the world go around. Have a pleasant day

Hap

Well to all of you fellow distributors...the juice is the greatest thing that has happenede to me. I used to take accutane for my acne and it messed up my knees, i could not jog without them hurting. After 1 month of drinking the juice I can jog with ease, no pain, its all gone. Also on being paid, there is so many ways to get paid. What is so great is that Im getting my juice for free. Im making $4,000 dollars a week, every single week, my mother is making $2,400 every week. I love this company and it has changed my life and has changed the lives of others and will continue to do so.

you guys are all so dumb! ugh. go and die somewhere people. gosh. don't waste your lives here...

Yes sid and hapEinAM are the same person since happy is actually sad and depressed he-she has invented its own little skitso friend to uphold its orations of nonsenseical nothingness. If there was an award for being able to write extremely long and petrifyingly boring daft nonsense that has a basis in the education of an aged gnat on acid hapEiAM would take that one. Step up hap you win ...it would be in the shape of a brain the size of giga-micron - aka - nothing unless you possesed the Leica/Nikon $100,000-Million dollar microscope of which only 3 exist- Then you could see it .Contains NO neurons though but thats up for debate as nobody can see any?? It would be like a Fabrege Egg in craftsmenship due to the sheer mind-numbing work of creating something so infintesamally small , they predict it would blind at least 7 artists before finished due to eye strain.

What is this, one life to Live starring Mitch & Trina - " Oh Mitch,but I do Love the super Juice - I didnt mean it I was just mad , BUt Trina you have slipped several times and put the Juice down - Im skeptical about your allegiance to the Black-Hole Diamond Dung Club- Oh Mitch how could You doubt me ,- Loud Flatulence in the background - Mitch to Trina, "You are drinking the juice after all !!!" loud kissing noises -----stay tuned----

Lets not put the FDA on a pedestal. Thankfully the Obama administration is setting up a task force to reveal more info on how the FDA works for the interests of big pharma rather than we the taxpayer.

For example Avandia which is made by GlaxoSmith Kline increases the risks of heart attacks by 42%. It's used for diabetes to control blood sugar levels. The FDA knew of the risks for two years.Only lawsuits forced their hand.

Did you know…

The leading drug problem in the U.S. today is not the use of illegal drugs--it is the use of legal drugs.

The fourth leading cause of death in the U.S. is properly prescribed and administered medication. By adding improperly prescribed medication to that equation, it becomes the third leading cause of death.

There are over 2 million hospital admissions and 180,000 deaths each and every year in the U.S. due solely to adverse drug reactions
When the FDA approves a medication for use by the general public, less than half of the serious drug reactions are known. You--the patient--become the final clinical trial.

Mitch- I don't know why you attacked me. I love my MonaVie. It's made a big difference for me and my family. I was just telling you what I heard from my friend. Ignore it if you want. If I hear more I'll let the others know.

JJT- You have hit that one right between the eyes . The price of this stuff is so ridiculously ambiguous and off the mark that If you were to go on a mission to buy the stuff purely for a marketing pricepoint survey the findings would be awakening to put it mildly . Anywhere from 20$ to one guy that wanted $75 a bottle. This is my own experience just with inquiries I was never dumb enough to buy it. Hence one of the MAJOR flaws with the MLM structure in THIS CASE . IN THIS CASE I mean that there is rampant unchecked claims and pricing being thrust upon the public at large as if once somebody has this "liscence to peddle" they craft thier own rules and do whatever it takes to get you to either sign on as a mule for thier profit or part with your hard earned cash , but we all know that the SMART people who do this have ZERO INTENTION to be involved in day to day one on one sales of small orders , thats beneath them and they ( most MLMER'S) all see this golden mound of dung thats been hammered into thier head by the upline guys who, one time I asked for product after a sales pitch at a holiday inn and a scene right out of boiler room and nearly exactly scripted from Ben Afflecks speech to all the rookies at the big table . I swear this guy was arrogant and evasive and to think nobody had seen that movie was stupid also . Anyhow he evaded me as if he was so busy and important he didnt even have time to sell me product and gave me cards of his DOWNLINE and said call them , in order of the closest for the maximum profit , as I checked them out. He didnt even want to , nor I suspect even had the stuff anywhere !!! What a schill - and this guy was Black-Dung Diamond-Flatulence double-dutch dink . He rattled off every invented title they had . I thought initally the whole thing was a joke and soon he would lighten up and we would all have a good chuckle and talk real business stratgies and consistency in the company which was my main issue and wanted it discussed . But the whole thing was him with a hot air compressor and he would go around and attach it to everybodys arse and pump us all full of it. It was patronizing, demeaning and I stopped him so many times he wanted to throw me out when I called him on everything and finaly he said questions will be taken at the end . The end came ...he went to the can and some other weakling in his "downline" stepped in like Ari Fleischer trying to cover for GW-BUsh it was so ridiculous I could help but burst out laughing and it became contageous and then whne this guy who has been in about 2 months couldnt answer even a telephone let alone or questions , I finally woke up and that was my first and last day with this disorganized group of howler monkeys that only have one thing they want and they dont care how they get it - $$$--true story

Well hapEin AM guess that was NOT your LAST post to me -wow I really got under your skin with the truth -pity you cant control your anger.tsk tsk -Yeah I was in the military and its a joke for people that lack the ability to think for themselves ,enlisted that is which I was not - But even being an officer with a 214 clean and honorable with multiple meritorious advancments, but its all BS just like your posts. Sorry I hurt your feelings ,didnt know you were so sensitive.

Trina...Talking to JJT on the phone does not count. She is the biggest joke around. She's been trying to shut Monavie down for some time now. Good try Trina..Tell your idiot brother brown smelly to get a job. I just heard from my best friend that the FDA loves Monavie and their employees drink it during lunch daily for energy boost! I will keep you posted when I hear more from the FDA Monavie marriage. Until then.....

Hap, the minutia of any other MLM doesn't really have anything to do with MonaVie, but what I said or meant to convey is that of course someone recruited me, but they never tried to get me to recruit anyone myself. Like Avon or Tupperware, being a sale person could be the end game and it was still a profitable venture.

Also, I didn't ever say I worked 18 minutes a day...I thought I said I worked about 4 hours a week. I generally averaged a couple of hours on two days a week.

The products I sold were priced extremely competitively, but appealed greatly because people could shop in their own homes and check out things they normally have to buy through a catalog or in a retail setting they may have not been comfortable in visiting.

I do believe MonaVie is grossly over priced for the nutrition and antioxidants it contains. In analysis I believe it's worth less than $5 a bottle, probably closer to $3. I'm not being mean. It is what it is.

What do you mean, that the company just slaps some numbers together for the IDS? Are you kidding me? If they were going to slap numbers together why not pick better than that? Besides, it's a LEGAL disclosure. It's supposed to mean something. If it doesn't then the company is breaking the law on that level too. And yes, I've read the definitions and disclaimers in the fine print of the IDS...it all means the very worst it could mean. All the fair-weather juice sellers aren't even considered. There's rigid criteria to be included in those numbers. I really don't think you understand it yourself.

About drug ads...each of those drugs has been tested and at least run through the maze of FDA approval. Is that perfect? Hell no! But it's the best system we've got, and it's the law. That means something to me. How can you have such concern about morals but think it's okay to play fast and loose with the law?

An aspirin is a drug...approved to make whatever representations the companies make. An individual telling someone something...like MonaVie helped them, in their opinion, is fine.
It's when that person becomes a distributor and continues to say those things that it's illegal. Again, that's the law. It's a law for a reason.

Finally, Hap, I don't have to go to any meeting or tasting party or BDU to find claims...they're all over the Internet. It would be a full time job to just send in everything I find to MonaVie compliance.

And, I think you're poorboyin' me saying you've never heard anything like that from a distributor. Hell, I bet I could print out this blog currently and find numerous instances of people who sell MonaVie making ridiculous, outlandish, and yes...illegal claims.

Hap, much of the time you're a pretty nice guy, but on this you're just way off base.

Sorry.

Trina, that is interesting. CSPI is usually a thorn in the side of the FDA. You say they have teamed up? Change has come. I know CSPI has been going after all those acai scams where they get ahold of your credit card and you can't stop the charges. They've even discovered some of those charges are going overseas. Please keep us posted.

Hey Jackie, it wasn't a treasure chest, I was referring to JJT's pleasure chest. It sounds like she was marketing sex toys. Ain't MLM great, there is something for everybody in MLM.

Healthy confessions, i.e., Monavie in the refrigerator:

www.living.health.com/2009/05/20/cheryl-burke-healthy-life/

SID.....Thanks for the kind words. I didn't mean to be so bad. I fell into his web and said something awful. The people like him swear and use the lords name in vain on this post. I don't pray for his soul or for him. His name is on another post an is worst than what he writes here. He's without morels,conscience and love of mankind. He's like his name BSS. Too bad he doesn't live in this country. We could put him in the military and make a man out of him.

Hap

Ms Juliana James -Thomas,Thank you for setting me straight. I knew you had some goodness in your heart and not so much hate. It's hard to remember what people say they do with so many on this post. I too am not in Monavie, I was in Direct Sales like you, I wore out more shoes than what I made, but Monavie is like most MLM's you sell and also recruit. I only sent that post so some on here can understand what MLM's are about. I didn't want any wrong ideas.

***No one was encouraged to become a distributor in order to buy the merchandise.you stated that. Then how did you become a distributor if no one told you how to get into the business? You stated that you worked 4 hrs a week and made $500 month. Not bad for $31.25 an hour. Your products must have been expensive to have you only work 18 minutes a day. Not that there is any thing wrong with that. That's pretty good.

For some reason you feel the price of Monavie is inflated to try to force people to consider becoming sales people in order to get a better deal themselves. Monavie is in the same price range of the other MLM companies out there. Example : Noni Juice 32 oz $24.99, Mangosteen 32 oz $34.99 , Goji Gold 32oz $59.88 etc. Now grocery stores are different than MLM's, and I'm sure you will agree with that.

I know the IDS is required so I'm sure they just write down figures to appease whom ever. but you will notice that it does say Approximately 91% of individuals who executed a Monavie Distributor Application and Agreement are considered WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS. The other 9% it states: For the purposes of this Income Discloser Statement, Mary will only be considered a DISTRIBUTOR during the months of April, May and August. The average annualized income for all distributors [not customers]during this period[April to August] was $3985.09 That's pretty good too! That's $9.58 an hour X 8 hrs a week X 52=$3985 besides their regular job.

Let me ask you this, on television we have all kinds of drug ads, that say treated, helped, aided, prevented and etc. Now when someone takes an aspirin and said it help their headache or cured their headache or treated their headache that's OK? right? Then a young or older person that has joint pain says "I drank Monavie for a few days and my pain is gone, I think it helped me".Your saying that this person is lying? That it never happened. And they can't say that? Have you check out Reliv lately?

It seems funny to me that you hear people that are in Monavie tell you personally that Monavie "cured" anything. I personally have not heard this from any distributor that I have ever talk to, or listen to at any tasting party or meeting. Have you listen to any of the tapes of some of the Black Diamonds? If so please tell us were the Monavie Black Diamonds say it "cures" anything. I know I would like to find it and so would a lot of others.

And thanks again for setting me straight, it was very kind of you.

I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who works as an administrative assistant for The Center for Science in The Public Interest. She said that they've opened up a joint investigation with the FDA about MonaVie. I don't know much more than that but if I hear anything I'll post it here.

I joined the mona vie movement and it just dis not pan out for me. I did enjoy the drink but the bus. aspect was not that good in my opinion. I have been blessed to fine a new start up called EFUSJON ENERGY CLUB. The drink is awesome with acai and B vits. Its a healthy energy drink with more energy drinks to come. I think it to be legit and an opportunity for change. Check it out if you like. www.myefusjon.com/joethrasher Thanks and God Bless!

Hey B of VA, you made fun of the treasure chest from Juliana James-Thomas ...$50 for $200 worth of goodies galore. What about the great deal from TEAM? The TL-141 Monavie 1000 tool trunk. Only $1,114. Oh, and get this...the trunk isn't included!! What a hoot!!
the-team.biz/shophome/product/tabid/94/p-966-tl-146-media-1000-tool-trunk.aspx

Hey SLUG HEAD,

I read HAP's comments on a regular basis. He's smart enough to write a paragraph or two...for you we all understand one sentence is a struggle. Don't speak for the rest of us smelly idiot. When your comments are worth reading, we might just look your way. MAYBE...

hapEinAM- :.... Gee Willikers there hapEinAM guess I must have spun some truth into my last blog about your long winded posts that require several hours to wade through like a giant compost heap . It was merely constructive criticism that was designed to help you actually have people here read what you write instead of going ,OH NO HERE hapE GOES AGAIN!with the extended version of the bestseller" how a cat chases its tail" and you remarkably kept it under 10,000 words..I think.
Anyhow your response to me in which you make a personal attack about something to do with alchoholism ? It comes from which part of your grey matter- the wet-brain area? ? I dont even drink which exposes your real problem that I nailed was that you Isolate yourself due to lack of social skills or embarassment from being smashed and end up here where its safe and we cant smell your breath- thanks God = Then you refer to my non-religous upbringing -- Thats 100% CORRECT - I am not a memeber of your Religous Christian and Catholic clubs POSING as mediums of GOD that are in reality MOLESTATION CENTERS for the PEDOPHILE STAFF that give themselves names like "Pastor" or "Preist" or "FATHER" maybe daddy in your case . BUt thank God I escaped that horrifying experience that you didnt . I feel for you and understand why you drink to forget the pain of the priestly molestations - damn what a shame - I'll pray for you and all the AA people that need help - Bless You Child-to hapEnAM. PS- MOney-Viva wont cure this too-sorry

A Concerned Friend...your comments are a joke. What this blah, blah, blah stuff. I think I heard the same language coming from a children's playground the other day. If you are goung to post on an adult site, then ACT LIKE AN ADULT!

Adam,

That is a very inspiring story. It's a shame Monavie didn't help you with the concept of punctuation.

In other words...WHAT?

BROWN SMELLY SLUG ... This will be my one and only response to you. First of all, go to one of your other blogs who allow you to spread your filth. You know the one I'm talking about. Your a young alcoholic that gets his jollies off writing filth. I guess Jim Beam ought to be proud of you. Get a descent life. There are plenty of organizations out there who take care of people like yourself. Find one fast! I suggest that you get one before your country shuts them down. Secondly, since you don't have a good religious background if you must swear cuss out your mother for giving you a life because you are not worth it. Even you moniker tells us what you are "A BROWN SMELLY SLUG". And my main reason for answering your post : I'll sh#* in another alley and you'll starve to death.

I'm so glad that JJT had an experience sharing with others what she believed was important, i.e., cinnamon flavored lube. Good Lord, and for $50 you could get $200 worth of these goodies galore. I would never shame you for that but I doubt most people would want to peddle a pleasure chest like that. Most people are too shy.

Add some vitamins to that lube and you could have a hit. But cinnamon has quite a bite, I'm not sure too many people would want that where the sun don't shine. Maybe it was a source of natural heat. Thanks for telling us you actually shared something with people you liked. Lick it, feel it, share it. You made my day.

Concerned fiend, the right coast is waiting and I think smelly needs some private tutoring. I'll mention it since I know you won't. Safe trip. I hope you look for a tasting party. And let us know how it goes.

this product is wonderfull i have been taking it for a month and a half and i have lost 8 pounds and my lower back has quit hurting my mothers feet also quit swelling and it evened out her blood presure and blood sugar so when it done that for my mother it made me a trust the product and i have been a distributer for a month and a half and i am geting my juice for free and all i have done is tell people about it thanks for looking if ur thanking about taking it try it u wont be dissapointed thanks agin

aheel,

If you answer my question I would be more than happy to answer yours.

At MV every individual in the top 10% earns more than the bottom 90% combined. Most businesses are not like that. Also, people hiring you for Exxon-Mobil do not tell you that you can be making what they make if you work hard and blah blah blah.

Breezy,

Yes I do pick on my Soldiers for grammar and spelling. Still in Iraq as of now, soon I will be on the right coast. I thought about the pests being safe, but some people like their pests.

HapEinAM- If you want to write a book and havent been able to get published- its obvious why. This is a BLOG not a your BIOGRAPHY jesus christ anytime I see some dink that writes 100 lines of fabricated facts and bs weather its against money-viva or not they are in a state of mental isolation and lack fundamental social skills therfore they write these extended orations thinking people are reading them ---WE ARENT READING THEM - TO LONG - read war and peace and get back to us-

Incidentally, Hap, I've never said I was a mortgage broker. I've always had the feeling mortgage brokers are kind of like manufactured homes...they meet a need for some people.

I am a mortgage professional, an originator, and have always only worked in a supervised lending capacity. There's a difference.

And ya'know, I realized a bit ago that I have actually been involved with a MLM of sorts, long ago in my past, "Goodies Galore" in the 80's.

You're right. Thinking about how it operated helps when thinking about how it was different from MonaVie.

To get started I had to spend 50-something dollars on a sample/display kit but it contained close to $200 worth of merchandise. If I'd quit right then I would have been ahead.

There was significantly more focus on selling to Bob and Betty consumer than there was on recruiting them as sales people; similar to Avon, Mary Kay, Tupperware, other substantive MLM's.

All of my commissions were from the direct sales I made. I was never required or even overly encouraged to put people under me. Again, I believe in Avon, Mary Kay, Tupperware, etcetera, a sales person can be the end game...with no call for "legs".

I only spent about four hours a week "working my biz" and I never earned less than $500 a month. That's sure different than MonaVie!

No one was encouraged to become a distributor in order to buy the merchandise at prices more in line with the true market values of the products. The retail prices weren't inflated to try to force people to consider becoming sales people in order to get a better deal themselves.

Oh! And no one ever tried to tell anyone that the cinnamon flavored lube did anything besides taste like cinnamon and of course have the properties of lube. No one ever suggested it treated, helped, aided, prevented, reversed, or cured anything.

Leslie, pray! That's wonderful! Folks praying for me is always appreciated, and perhaps if you're busy praying for me you're spending less time preying on others.

You think I don't have a life? I work in two areas of my chosen industry, at least 60 hours a week but often more.

I volunteer for a number of social, recreational, and community organizations.

I have a more-than-full dance card, a varied social life, and lots of friends with whom I spend time.

I care for a household, yard, family, my child, pets, and myself.

All of that without drinking MonaVie.

(I don't have the time or desire to make such a poor nutritional offering part of my wellness regieme...60 mg of vitamin C...some vitamin K...nothing else much to speak of. There are more antioxidants in a small handfull of blueberries...6 oz of cranberty or concord grape juice, not to mention the much greater benefits of red wine.)

Hap, what I posted is direct from the Federal Trade Commission. I don't have to be a con artist to talk about con artists. I don't have to deal dope to debate about the ills drug deals and dealers put on our society. I don't have to be intimate with the working of bad, greedy, unethical mortgage people, relying on misdirection and midleading business practices to know or understand how the schemes and scams work.

That dog don't hunt.

It wasn't even a good try. Very long winded, much better form and English...doesn't seem very Hap-like reviewing posts from the past, but alas more is not always more.

No Money, that is a strange issue. Your virtual office tells you each week how much money you have made, and you get emails each week telling you how much has been added to your purple card (same amount). How did you let this happen. Your sponsor should be held accountable. If you are telling the truth, your sponsor had two cards. Call the BBB. Otherwise your story sounds ridiculous.

After reading several comments, it's quite clear this JJT person has no life. Please help me pray that she gets a job or something because she has way too much time on her hands. Also, she repeats herself constantly...maybe a mental problem so we won't be too hard on her. Quite obvious she needs professional help!

Leslie,RN

Our experience was different. Monavie issued a debit card in our name, sent it to our sponsor who spent it on buying product to qualify for more bonuses. We got the 1099 to pay taxes on the income! Numerous calls, letters. emails,etc. got no response from Monavie. All they had to do was a reverse 1099. They did not give us the time of day!BEWARE!!!!!!

Ms Juliana James-Thomas

I, like many others are in MLM's but I notice that you are in neither. Why is that? You write about it as if you are an authority on the subject, but like Anonymous said "you're a student" just like I would be talking about mortgages.

If I were to be a mortgage broker like yourself, should I look up to you for guidance? You have the experience and knowledge. Would I be right in making that statement? Since I'm into MLM's should I take advice from you on network marketing since you claim to have experience and knowledge? Or are you just repeating what you read or heard someone say about network marketing? You posted:*** that somehow, because MonaVie has a product, that christens it NOT an illegal pyramid? In the words of late, great, Johnny Carson...WRONG cancellation breath!

Below is from a person [not me] that has over 30 years experience in MLM's. Would you not agree he has more experience than you? This way he can set you straight ....WRONG cancellation breath!

Pyramids and MLM - because they can’t differentiate between them. They have lumped them into the same category, evidently thinking that anything that pays on multiple levels must be a pyramid. If that were true, franchising would be a pyramid.

Scheme
1. Someone’s plan for achieving something.
2. A secret or devious plan.
Scheme comes from Latin word schema, which means figure.
Therefore, a scheme can mean either a plan for something good or something devious.
Scam
A fraudulent scheme.
Fraudulent comes from the Latin word fraud, which means deceit.
Deceiving someone means to trick them. Is this what you are doing?

FACT: There is no industry (including stocks, charities, legal, medical, religion, MLM and government) that does not have a history of fraudulent activities. Fraudulent activities of some people in an industry does NOT constitute a fraudulent industry.

In looking at scams, it is important to locate the actual source that is carrying out the scam; there is ALWAYS at least ONE person.

Source: One that causes, creates, or initiates; a maker. If a scammer (a person) uses MLM to deploy his scam, don’t blame MLM. An industry can’t be a scam as it’s not capable of tricking people. People are the only ones capable of tricking people. MLM is not the culprit in scams, pyramids, investment fraud, chain letters or Ponzi schemes. The culprit is the unethical activities of a person or a group of people.

The reason scams sometimes use MLM is because MLM is a powerful way to distribute anything. Just as a telephone or the Internet is a powerful way to reach people

Confused
1. Being unable to think with clarity or act with understanding and intelligence.
2. Lacking logical order or sense.

The government and the media have done a fantastic job of confusing people on the subject of pyramids and their association to MLM. The government (FTC - Federal Trade Commission) has publicly sued companies for running an illegal pyramid scheme and announced it to media; then the media has announced it to the public with very accusative statements like, “(Name of company) is an illegal pyramid scheme - ACTION IMMINENT!”

Then, after researching the company, the government drops the case because of no wrongdoing. But the media doesn’t announce this - therefore the public continues to think that a particular company is a pyramid scheme when it’s not. Pretty soon people just generally think that all MLM companies are pyramids when they are not.

This is the primary reason for the “controversy” around MLM. The controversy comes from people being confused on what is a legal and ethical MLM business and what is a pyramid. I will remove the confusion below.
Perspective The ability to perceive things in their actual comparative importance

“What is the damage done by the fraud?” In the case of pyramids it would be loss of money. So in order to quantify how fraudulent one industry is, you’d have to compare it to another or other industries where people lose money. NOTE: I am not discussing MLM here, I’m discussing illegal pyramids

In the US during the 2000’s, I was able to find:

TC vs. BigSmart - $5 million
Gifting Clubs - $16 million
Professional Resource Systems - $13 million
FTC vs. Skybiz - $20 million
That totals about $54 million..

The largest financial losses to mankind in the 21st century (and throughout history) have been in the US stock market. The stock market lost 9 TRILLION dollars of people’s money. though the losses are well known and documented, the government continues to let the stock exchanges do business.If the FTC’s stated purpose is to protect people against deceptive business practices that cause financial loss of their money, why, oh, why would they be focused on pyramids when the stock market in ONE DAY lost $663 billion dollars (October 27, 1997) of Mom and Pops’ life savings? How can that business be allowed to stay in operation? I do not have an axe to grind with the stock market. I’m bringing this up as an example of perspective. Intelligent people can and DO put things in perspective by comparing them

When you compare the losses in the stock market, lotteries, and gambling to the losses caused by pyramids, it is clear that pyramids do not cause nearly the amount of damage as other industries. In 2003, the average household in the U.S. spent $372 on state lottery tickets - that’s 42 billion dollars in losses (not counting the handful that won). Americans “legally” gambled more than 1.1 trillion dollars (2006).

Is that bad? If so, how bad? Let’s compare it to some other “losses.”

Illegal Pyramid Scheme

There’s a lot of “talk” about pyramid schemes. A pyramid scheme is different than an MLM company.

A pyramid is an illegal business that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, usually without any product or service being delivered. Sometimes there may be the appearance of a product, but it’s only there to make the pyramid look like a real business. Few people outside of the pyramid desire the product.

If you enrolled me into your “business” and I paid $500 to join BUT THERE WAS NO VALUABLE PRODUCT EXCHANGED, it could be an illegal pyramid.

This does not mean that MLM is an illegal pyramid because people enroll others into a business. The fine line between legal MLM and illegal pyramid scheme (according to the FTC) is the exchange of a “real” product.

Please note that distributors making income claims does not make an MLM company an illegal pyramid scheme! Remember, an illegal pyramid is when distributors are signing people up and not exchanging a valuable product. But earning claims can get you and your MLM company investigated by the FTC, which normally results in a fine and bad press. But on the other hand MLM's are required to show income disclosers. Damm if you do,and damm if you don't

There, Ms. Juliana James - Thomas, you stated: ***In the words of late, great, Johnny Carson...WRONG cancellation breath! the line above that says: according to the FTC) is the exchange of a “real” product.

*** Some people confuse pyramid and Ponzi schemes with legitimate multilevel marketing. Multilevel marketing programs are known as MLM's,(4) and unlike pyramid or Ponzi schemes, MLM's have a real product to sell. More importantly, MLM's actually sell their product to members of the general public, without requiring these consumers to pay anything extra or to join the MLM system. MLM's may pay commissions to a long string of distributors, but these commission are paid for real retail sales, not for new recruits. This was the last paragraph that you wrote. Is not MonaVie a MLM? Does it not sell a real product? Does it not sell their product to members of the general public, without requiring these consumers to pay anything extra or to join the MLM? Does it not pay commissions to a long string of distributors, but these commission are paid for real retail sales, not for new recruits?

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As I have looked closer at the Monavie opportunity, I have decided Monavie is not a scheme nor scam. I am not convinced it's a perfect setup, but has great potential.

JJT

Posted by: JJT | May 30, 2009 4:03 AM

I've worked as a union organizer three different times. No one could have convinced me before the first go-'round, a baptism of fire, of how dirty-dealing, duplicit, and underhanded the company could become. There were people who were pro-company who had their cars vandalized and some were even followed and terrorized on their drives home. It wasn't the organizers who did it. It was other pro-company people doing it, to posture as union organizers, crossing the line to become anti-union terrorists.

I wrote the above quote....

in your dreams.

Wheres "Pinch One" when you need insight- Listen to all this nonsenseical back and forth 0ver this patheticlly flawed marketing scheme that has some useless juice as its core for sale. I mean this berry and all the hoopla over it is exactly like the Iraq War metaphor - WE were lied to from the beginning and the whole thing got started as a result and now its so far out of control that to get it shut down its like landing a 747 on flat bicycle tires because it failed long ago and the Black-lung Diamond-thieves keep pumping the people who have the IQ of the last president or lower ...(if thats possible ) to sell the stuff because they are going to be RICH and little motivation comes from them saying that this is a revolutionary product that changes lives ...which it does by bankrupting people and ruining thier friendships and syblings relationships also. Other than changing the balance in thier checking accts for the worse it does little else . Of Course they will tell you off the record , that studies have been done in Brazil, Switzerland etc. that are being suppresed by the FDA because its so miraculous it would put the medical industry out of business overnight because it cures everything , always 100% of the time . AH- HA I have heard that over 5 X. seriously . Anyhow you slow talking losers keep tring to bilk honest people out of thier cash and when this thing finally is done crumbling. Keep you cameras rolling because it should be similar to the Hindenberg when it finally goes -- Madeoff is proabably the ground floor triple-Flint-rubble-Bubble , Black double-dutch Diamond dunkin-Daft-dink. A,K.A - CEO

Dear concerned friend

Can you please name for me ONE company in Corp. Amer. where the bottom 90% earns more than the top 10%? Exxon? GM? Who makes MOST OF THE "substantial money"

And is it me or what? The ADMIN always cuts the resonds off at a neg. responds at the top? Everytime I come to this site I always see the neg first at the top.

www.businessforhome.org/mlm-500-top-earners/

Thank you moderator for not letting irv have his way. Other lists and moderators bow down to irv. That website says the donor was an employee of xxxxx. We have no idea who that actually is. Of course irv knows everything.

xxxxdoes motivational speaking all over the world. I think it would be interesting to ask him that question publicly. On the other hand he probably has staff and they could very well be of the religion that got involved in the California debacle. To heaven with all of them. Isn't it odd that the regilion has had so many issues around marriage. First they did plural marriage and now they spend good money on trying to stop love. Oh well.

If you search him he is all over the place.

www.speakermatch.com/keynotespeakers/218377574.htm

He has traveled several million miles as a seminar presenter, a speaker, and a lecturer. He is also the author of The Breakthrough Factor and contributing author to Awaken the Olympian Within.

MV4Life, it is cool that Monavie was born of a 4 time Olympian, American record holder, Hall of Famer and a professional motivator. I had never really examined this before. Now hopefully he and/or his staff will come into the 21st century. Some of the worst child abusers are fundamentalists. Now that would be a good place for their attention, child abuse.

Concerned Fiend, welcome almost home. Tell me, do you bug the soldiers about their grammar and spelling like you do on here. Just how obsessive is this for you. I'm waiting for you to pick up on EB wanting to keep her pests safe.

Chris,

Please name one corporation that is a pyramid scam, other than an MLM that operates like MV? Also, a person with a graduate degree from a top school should be able to type a paragraph without error (the word is it's not its also, AN is usually used before a vowel sound not A).

Hello Breezy, I will be in the states soon. I know you missed me on here.

Jane,

Fastest growing, how? Please state your measuring stick.

MV4Life -- Madoff did "massive amounts of business" without a good product or a better than good product.

rvie - less than 9% of your company makes any substantial money.

Irv-

The ultimate spinmaster - how the heck are ya? So, 3 weeks until doomsday? I'll be holding my breath.... N O T! You're a funny guy- I'll give you that.

All that's really gonna unfold before our eyes, my friend, is Monavie taking things to a new level. Go ahead and question/deny the record-shattering numbers if it makes you feel better. You're nothing but a malcontent who lost some $$$ bcuz you found out it took HARD WORK to grow your business. WAHHHHHHHHHHHH? Go suck on your pacifier, OIV. OK?!?! Anyone with half a brain knows what you are all about.

And who really cares if someone affiliated with Monavie made a donation for or against prop 8 -- one has the right to support whatever he she believes in...it's still a free country. The fact that you generalize that the whole company is a bunch of lying scumbags/dregs of the earth is comical---a typical comment from the halfwit that you are.

But, like I said, bcuz it's a free country--I guess it's impossible to keep you from spewing your ignorant rants. So keep beating your chest, big boy. It's rather entertaining.

NOTE FROM ADMIN: I'm not posting names for something like this which I can't verify (or want to take the time to.)--------------------------------------------------------------------------

B of VA said: ”We have no idea if the person who gave $49,000 is actually with Monavie. ? The link identifies the donor as xxxxx (Bountiful, Utah); it doesn’t say anything about an “employee”. This IS the executive VP and cofounder of Monavie. How obvious does it have to be before you get it? And don’t bother trying to argue next that there are hundreds of guys namedxxxxxxxx that live in Bountiful Utah, because there aren’t – I checked White Pages and there is only one
“I sure hope that his personal mastery does not involve tampering with politics in another state.”

It obviously does…your hopes are dashed.

“If his church or even his state was wanting to sanction unions that would be his business. All other is uncalled for.”

That’s my point. It’s inexcusable. Yet another black mark on Monavie’s bruised and battered reputation.

“Why do we think we can control the world. Why do the Monavie haters want to control what isn't in their personal interest. Drink it or don't drink it. Many do drink it. I hope you all can come to deal with that.”

How the hell do you turn the company’s homophobic political meddling into a slur about the “Monavie haters” trying to exert control? Can you be any more duplicitous? xxxxx donated $49 K to defeat same sex marriage in California – I hope you “can come to deal with that”.

Robert (Rob) you make a lot of sense. Thanks for your input. Maybe I need to reconsider what I doing with my Monavie business.

mv4life

As I have looked closer at the Monavie opportunity, I have decided Monavie is not a scheme nor scam. I am not convinced it's a perfect setup, but has great potential.

JJT

nicole, what in the world makes you think that not "one person using the phrase pyramid scheme or scram{sic}" has not looked up the definitions?

Have you??

Or are you just relying on some BS sound bite regurgitated from your up line...that somehow, because MonaVie has a product, that christens it NOT an illegal pyramid? In the words of late, great, Johnny Carson...WRONG cancellation breath!

www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.shtm

Definition of an illegal pyramid scheme:

What is a Pyramid Scheme and What is Legitimate Marketing?

Pyramid schemes now come in so many forms that they may be difficult to recognize immediately. However, they all share one overriding characteristic. They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public. Some schemes may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure. There are two tell-tale signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme: inventory loading and a lack of retail sales. Inventory loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces recruits to buy more products than they could ever sell, often at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to market. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their basements. A lack of retail sales is also a red flag that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new recruits joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public.

A Ponzi scheme is closely related to a pyramid because it revolves around continuous recruiting, but in a Ponzi scheme the promoter generally has no product to sell and pays no commission to investors who recruit new "members." Instead, the promoter collects payments from a stream of people, promising them all the same high rate of return on a short-term investment. In the typical Ponzi scheme, there is no real investment opportunity, and the promoter just uses the money from new recruits to pay obligations owed to longer-standing members of the program. In English, there is an expression that nicely summarizes this scheme: It's called "stealing from Peter to pay Paul." In fact some law enforcement officers call Ponzi schemes "Peter-Paul" scams. Many of you may be familiar with Ponzi schemes reported in the international financial news. For example, the MMM fund in Russia, which issued investors shares of stock and suddenly collapsed in 1994, was characterized as a Ponzi scheme.(2)

Both Ponzi schemes and pyramids are quite seductive because they may be able to deliver a high rate of return to a few early investors for a short period of time. Yet, both pyramid and Ponzi schemes are illegal because they inevitably must fall apart. No program can recruit new members forever. Every pyramid or Ponzi scheme collapses because it cannot expand beyond the size of the earth's population.(3) When the scheme collapses, most investors find themselves at the bottom, unable to recoup their losses.

Some people confuse pyramid and Ponzi schemes with legitimate multilevel marketing. Multilevel marketing programs are known as MLM's,(4) and unlike pyramid or Ponzi schemes, MLM's have a real product to sell. More importantly, MLM's actually sell their product to members of the general public, without requiring these consumers to pay anything extra or to join the MLM system. MLM's may pay commissions to a long string of distributors, but these commission are paid for real retail sales, not for new recruits.

If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, and craps through feathers, I'd call it a duck.

MV4Life...I didn't accuse anyone of being harry henderson.

Someone signing as JJT accused MARK of being harry henderson...

but somehow you of the vitriolic, bullying, anti-patriotic, homophobic, countenance thought an accusation of mark being harry somehow meant that was you being harry...

I'd rather be queer than as odd as all that.

What an absolute lying dolt you are!

About the earnings...how many people who are in MonaVie are on that list...total. Are you saying there are more? Is there somehow room for others to have a snowball's chance in hell of achieving anything remotely like that?

Isn't it a violation of the law under the FTC and also the independent distributorship agreement w/MonaVie to rely on showing only the very best of results and not the whole enchilada?

Aren't those the rules?

This is a classic multi-level marketing scheme, not scam, scheme. It has all the essential elements promises of quick easy money, the latest snake oil elixir and cure all product and desperate,unemployed individuals looking for any work really. Unfortunately, most of the million-strong sales team is really just drinking the juice, according to MonaVie's 2007 income disclosure statement, a federally required printout of their distributor earnings. More than 90 percent were considered "wholesale customers," whose earnings are mostly discounts on sales to themselves. Fewer than 1 percent qualified for commissions and of those, only 10 percent made more than $100 a week. And the dropout rate, while not disclosed by MonaVie, is around 70 percent, according to a top recruiter.
The MLM is more missleading to its staff members in that the staff will never make the sort of money the people at the top will.
Mona Vie is not a scam in the "Nigerian money scam" sense but it dances the fine line of fraud.

Rob from Michigan

mv4life said: "I just stick to promoting (legally, of course) one of the finest nutritional products to come down the pike."

On what, exactly, do you base that claim?

Someone here mentioned that this 500 top earner thing comes from the same information that the FTC gets. WHAT? Can you explain that? Right above the list of top earners it says:

"The estimated earnings 2009 are based on internet research, earnings claims from conventions, downline, upline, crossline information and through our reporters."

I just think number one, anyone that wants to hype up their "big shot" persona can post whatever they want to as earnings. Second most of these people have either been with their present companies for ages, or have been in the business for a long time and have established groups of thousands who follow them everywhere.

I just wish people wouldn't be so misleading. These are hardcore players, and it's unrealistic for every MLM player to think and expect that they will be the next Brig Hart. It's like every person in America thinking they will grow up to be President.

You can fantasize. But even the most committed may not always reach the million a year mark.

B of VA said ”Dave, there are two listed at $49,000 from Utah but neither name is listed. How do you know it was the VP of Monavie? If the VP (why don't you say his name if you are so sure) has given money it is his right as a private citizen but it would be absolutely disgusting at the same time and I would blast this but first have to make sure…Please give us more useful information regarding Monavie and Prop H8. (not just an employee of Marsh). Who gave that money?

Look more closely… is clearly identified as the donor of $49,000 to support Prop 8. Absolutely disgusting? Abso-freakin-lutely! We finally agree on something. You work for a bunch of homophobic hatmongering, lying scumbags – the dregs of the earth. Let’s see if you have enough intestinal fortitude to follow through on your promise and “blast them”.